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 Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism?  [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24348423 - 05/25/17 08:38 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why does globalism necessitate an elite at all?
Expanding democracy, education, prosperity, and solidarity seems to be a detriment to the elite. Thats why they want to keep things how they are.
They got poor people to build their shit, and they got us to buy them. Nations with low taxes to hide their money in, and nations with high taxes so they can have the government subsidize their employees.
"Why does globalism necessitate an elite at all?"
Because the origins of globalism is cheap labor and high profit margins, that only benefits the elite.
There's no reason for Nike to set up shop in China other than for those reasons, as soon as wages get too high in China they will find a new place in Vietnam.
Why can't Nike just stay in the US and hire US workers at a decent wage and have lower profit margins? Because the elite won't benefit from that scenario.
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#24348427 - 05/25/17 08:40 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right, so lets make it so there arent any nations with slave wages and virtually nonexistent taxes for them to jump to next.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: qman]
#24348429 - 05/25/17 08:41 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Exactly woman this entire globalism is just a modern shift of how to enslave the entire world and workforce
But ones more aware of the current debt banking cycles most of us are already slaves to a shrinking medium that is ever decreasing in spending power
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24348435 - 05/25/17 08:44 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think the big problem is we just assume that the super rich will remain regardless.
"Oh well if we raise wages and standards of living in the third world then those costs will just be passed on to the first world middle class." Ummm how about we just tell Apple and their obscene profit margins to get fucked.
The selling point for globalization in the US/EU was that third world peasants were going to be consumers of US/EU products, as we know that never really happened to the degree that they marketed the plan.
Why didn't that ever happen? The people in power never allowed the third world to have purchasing power and then those nations put up tariffs on US products as well.
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#24348442 - 05/25/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right, so lets make it so there arent any nations with slave wages and virtually nonexistent taxes for them to jump to next.
Anyone in power that tries to enact a policy change like that is going to find their brains scattered in a million different places.
Trump tired kicking that hornets nest, have you noticed Mr.Bigmouth hasn't said a word about global trade in a long long time?
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#24348447 - 05/25/17 08:53 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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It didnt happen because that was never the plan.
The elite just wanted a labor force they could barely pay.
Its a lot easier to exploit the poor and reduce labor costs, than it is to elevate the poor and hope they buy your products.
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#24348448 - 05/25/17 08:54 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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It didnt happen because that was never the plan.
The elite just wanted a labor force they could barely pay.
Its a lot easier to exploit the poor and reduce labor costs, than it is to elevate the poor and hope they buy your products.
We need a worldwide workers uprising!
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#24348449 - 05/25/17 08:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right, so lets make it so there arent any nations with slave wages and virtually nonexistent taxes for them to jump to next.
Anyone in power that tries to enact a policy change like that is going to find their brains scattered in a million different places.
Trump tired kicking that hornets nest, have you noticed Mr.Bigmouth hasn't said a word about global trade in a long long time?
Trump said what he said in order to get votes. Hes a globalist. Why would he sincerely want to damage the hornet's nest? Hes a goddamn hornet.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: qman]
#24348451 - 05/25/17 08:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Exactly it's the JFK and Bill Hicks joke
Every presidential candidate has decent intentions until the CIA shows them an unseen angle of the JFK assassination and go any questions!?
It's becoming such a large elephant in the room.
Everyone knows the problem and where it's root lay but everyone is too tied to contractural obligations for this dying medium (dollars) over exposing the liberating truth that all of us slaves to a banking class that gives two shits about anyone on here. It's time we unite
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: Psychonott]
#24348480 - 05/25/17 09:10 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cant believe people really think a silver spoon billionaire geniunely wants to be a champion for the working class.
I guess "Trump was gonna drain the swamp until the globalists forced him not to" is a solid coping mechanism for having ever taken this man on his word in the first place.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24348487 - 05/25/17 09:13 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
Right, so lets make it so there arent any nations with slave wages and virtually nonexistent taxes for them to jump to next.
Anyone in power that tries to enact a policy change like that is going to find their brains scattered in a million different places.
Trump tired kicking that hornets nest, have you noticed Mr.Bigmouth hasn't said a word about global trade in a long long time?
Trump said what he said in order to get votes. Hes a globalist. Why would he sincerely want to damage the hornet's nest? Hes a goddamn hornet.
Trump didn't back off of US trade deals because of his own personal business holdings, he backed off because he was warned to stop it.
In fact, many of Trump businesses might benefit from a reversal of US trade agreements.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24348494 - 05/25/17 09:16 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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We get what you're saying but yes exactly as woman has pointed out trump could benefit greatly from America first policies and America first policies and globalism are oxymorons
So yes I do believe a wealthy silver spoon candidate may have actually wanted a higher standard of living for him and his workers
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24348499 - 05/25/17 09:17 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cant believe people really think a silver spoon billionaire geniunely wants to be a champion for the working class.
I guess "Trump was gonna drain the swamp until the globalists forced him not to" is a solid coping mechanism for having ever taken this man on his word in the first place.
Why did Obama also back down from every campaign promise in 2008, he didn't have any businesses to protect, did he sell everyone out just for the fun of it?
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: qman]
#24348501 - 05/25/17 09:19 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nope! Exactly q man Obama just like trump had to bend over for the true political leaders of the American nation, the private central bankers which want wars to distract and entrap armies into debt cycles with their nations money supplies
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: qman]
#24348508 - 05/25/17 09:22 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trump didn't back off of US trade deals because of his own personal business holdings, he backed off because he was warned to stop it.
Source?
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: Enlil]
#24348522 - 05/25/17 09:27 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's the source enlil:
What branch or part of the United state government has direct control and oversight of the federal reserve?
We know the ability to manipulate a nations monetary supply is one of the most crucial parts in delegating authority and power
He who controls the nations wealth controls everything
So again I ask if the private banking cartel is not calling the shots then what branch of the United States government has oversight of them?
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#24348526 - 05/25/17 09:28 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Congress has control over the Federal Reserve.
What banking cartel are you talking about? It sounds like you're making shit up.
Keep the conspiracy nutter bullshit in the conspiracy forum. It really doesn't belong here.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: Enlil]
#24348532 - 05/25/17 09:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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In what way can congress oversee the federal reserve behavior and actions? They can appoint yes but what power or options do they have to manipulate its course?
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: Psychonott]
#24348540 - 05/25/17 09:33 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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They make the rules for the Federal Reserve. They can change those rules at any time, and they have done so over 200 times. They can control every detail of its operation if they want. They can abolish it if they want. They choose not to because that's how our federal government works. Congress creates independent agencies and delegates authority to them.
It's no different from the FBI, DEA, IRS, or EPA. All government agencies have authority to operate autonomously within the bounds of their respective Congressional charters.
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Re: What Is Inherently Wrong With Globalism? [Re: Enlil]
#24348551 - 05/25/17 09:36 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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So it's like a corrupt back scratching machine?
It's bad for business for corrupt politicians to turn on agencies that catapulted them to their political lives in the first place
So they enact lax banking laws like fractional reserve banking which enslave you and I in inescapable debt cycles which ensures these bankers have the most influence in our lives
And in return members of congress are paid more than 90% of the nation to keep making the swamp getting larger and stickier evey year
Yeah enlil they sure "have the power to change" but are too deep inexvbahing deep bribes that self reward to such degrees nothing if any importance will ever change
That is the corrupt banking/congress cartel
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Enlils true purpose is to get us off topic and to cast enough logical doubts so that outsiders viewing this would be more likely to side with his fake opinions rather than our or sometimes controlled opppsotions opinions.
You see if you are too skilled at not falling for their traps and stating logically sound debunks then other accounts who purposefully agree with 90% of the truth join in and get the entire topic off the main points.
It's their 1960s version of damage control and diversion but man it's painfully obvious in 2017
Edited by Psychonott (05/25/17 09:37 AM)
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