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Home Grower
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24337216 - 05/21/17 02:57 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, if your substrate is contaminated but still fruits, it is not OK to take spore prints from the fruits, because there will be mold spores all over them. I will read more about cloning, which right now is my only option anyway.
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mushhiehunter
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: Home Grower]
#24337230 - 05/21/17 03:08 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Home Grower said: Well, if your substrate is contaminated but still fruits, it is not OK to take spore prints from the fruits, because there will be mold spores all over them. I will read more about cloning, which right now is my only option anyway.
Try letting know the vendor about the mold problem, they will probably send you a new kit
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c10h12n2o
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: Home Grower]
#24337233 - 05/21/17 03:11 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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@mushiehunter
ah i see, that was good thinking, you are thinking right, but id be VERY surprised if the kit culture was worth a damn. do you still have any of your agar plate cultures? can you post pics of them? i would go back to them first, since the LC could have been the issue
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Home Grower said: Well, if your substrate is contaminated but still fruits, it is not OK to take spore prints from the fruits, because there will be mold spores all over them. I will read more about cloning, which right now is my only option anyway.
lol if you say so 
agar, agar, and agar
btw, your kit contamd because they used dirty spawn. this is exactly the reason we advise against kits, because we have seen this same thing happen 1000 times
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24337238 - 05/21/17 03:17 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I may contact the vendor to warn them about the problem. Meanwhile, I will be running this contaminated kit until I get fruits from it. I really, really hope that the mold will be overpowered by the mycelium. Checked today and there were not any new lipstick mold spots, knock on wood.
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mushhiehunter
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24337240 - 05/21/17 03:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: @mushiehunter
ah i see, that was good thinking, you are thinking right, but id be VERY surprised if the kit culture was worth a damn. do you still have any of your agar plate cultures? can you post pics of them? i would go back to them first, since the LC could have been the issue
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Home Grower said: Well, if your substrate is contaminated but still fruits, it is not OK to take spore prints from the fruits, because there will be mold spores all over them. I will read more about cloning, which right now is my only option anyway.
lol if you say so 
agar, agar, and agar
btw, your kit contamd because they used dirty spawn. this is exactly the reason we advise against kits, because we have seen this same thing happen 1000 times
Yeah I still have my cultures but since I have fruits now I will probably make a clone and start some other strains on agar from spores in the meantime.
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c10h12n2o
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24337248 - 05/21/17 03:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh well you didnt say that! yeah, if you have fruits, clone em!
when you start fruiting clone cultures, you probably wont want to touch spores again for a loooooong time 
clone a nice cluster if possible
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24337251 - 05/21/17 03:27 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would much rather buy a great isolate from them on a petri since they are already selling live cultures, but they wouldn't make as much $$ this way.. it's just sad.
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c10h12n2o
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24337254 - 05/21/17 03:30 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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you are giving them too much credit... i highly doubt they have a great isolate to sell...
isolates are not really what you should be worrying about anyway. leave isolates to researchers and pro mycologists. just focus on organized cultures, whether clone or plain ms. all you want is a well organized culture, that will suit your purposes better than an isolate
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mushhiehunter
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24337267 - 05/21/17 03:43 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said: you are giving them too much credit... i highly doubt they have a great isolate to sell...
isolates are not really what you should be worrying about anyway. leave isolates to researchers and pro mycologists. just focus on organized cultures, whether clone or plain ms. all you want is a well organized culture, that will suit your purposes better than an isolate
There's a business Idea for a full-time shroomerite Move to Netherlands and start selling good, clean cultures
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24337555 - 05/21/17 08:41 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushhiehunter said:
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c10h12n2o said: you are giving them too much credit... i highly doubt they have a great isolate to sell...
isolates are not really what you should be worrying about anyway. leave isolates to researchers and pro mycologists. just focus on organized cultures, whether clone or plain ms. all you want is a well organized culture, that will suit your purposes better than an isolate
There's a business Idea for a full-time shroomerite Move to Netherlands and start selling good, clean cultures 
I've debated this in my head for a loooooong time tbh.
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mushhiehunter
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: jkz]
#24337813 - 05/21/17 10:58 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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jkz said:
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mushhiehunter said:
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c10h12n2o said: you are giving them too much credit... i highly doubt they have a great isolate to sell...
isolates are not really what you should be worrying about anyway. leave isolates to researchers and pro mycologists. just focus on organized cultures, whether clone or plain ms. all you want is a well organized culture, that will suit your purposes better than an isolate
There's a business Idea for a full-time shroomerite Move to Netherlands and start selling good, clean cultures 
I've debated this in my head for a loooooong time tbh.
I don't really think what they are doing is perfectly legal..
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Re: I am going against my grow kit's instructions. Wise? [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24338010 - 05/21/17 12:37 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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selling shrooms is so evil. even if it were legal. to sell such a gift??
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