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 Ganjawanna
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 Sun Dried Cyans 
#2432465 - 03/14/04 07:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I need some verification... are these cyans? THey were found dried by the elements.
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Ganjawanna
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 @cro
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You'll have much better luck posting this in the hunting forum.
I can tell you now they don't look like it to me, were they all from the same patch? It would help if we had more information. The gills don't look to be the right color and the stems should be white with blue/green stains not that rusty color.
Normally I'd just say no but the one on the far right seems to have bluish bruising near the cap but still the rest of it just doesn't look right at all. Definitely don't eat.
You'll have much better luck in 7 months.
Peace - @cro
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@cro
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: @cro]
#2432524 - 03/14/04 08:13 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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well I posted inbetween your first and second post.
I think I'll just confirm a no now 
sorry
peace
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Psilygirl
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yep, doesnt look like them. i'd say to give up cyan hunting for the year and wait till they're back in season, say october-november.
however, if you do have another ID question, i'd suggest posting in the hunting forum, and also add some comments such as what the mushroom was growing on, and where you live.
good luck, hope to see some cyan pics from ya in the fall! 
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Ganjawanna
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damn... you sure? I mean, i did find them dried by the sun... so they are a little more brown than usual. and the steams are white, the pics i took just kinda suck... are there any tests i can do to verifi yes or no?
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Psilygirl
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yeah, its pretty sure. its the wrong season, and theres no blueing whatsoever. even if you were to find them this late, there would for certain be blue bruising.
again, the season is roughly october-dec/jan (or when theres a couple good freezes)
good luck
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@cro
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Well you should give more info if you want a definite answer.
What was it growin on? a spore print is always key but wouldn't be to easy being this dried.
Although I have seen cyans dried out without any bruising it really isn't common. And again the gills just don't look right. Try rehydrating one in water. Sometimes after a few good days of wind they will completely dry out and the subsequent rains will come and rehydrate them bursting cells and bringing out stains.
At first glance i thought it was a picture of a pile of dogshit so it is hard to tell from those.
In my opinion, they're not but when this gets moved you'll get plenty of other opinions.
Peace - @cro
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mjshroomer
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Please do not pick shriveled up shrooms unless uy you like some bateria in your tummy. Dried shrooms are not a good ID for someone to give.
mj
And if they were Cope Cyans they would of blued as would have P. cyanescens which is gone till next fall.
mj
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Ganjawanna
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: @cro]
#2433278 - 03/14/04 11:21 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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sorry about putting this in the wrong forum.
but this might be why they haven't bruised...
Sometimes after a few good days of wind they will completely dry out and the subsequent rains will come and rehydrate them bursting cells and bringing out stains.
That's true, but i live in northen cali, and we had rains, and then a n intense heat wave for like 4 days str8. They may have just grown and been caught in the heat.
They were growing on a mountain kinda near san francisco. they were growing near these hay bails and woodchips to stop errosion of part of the mountain.
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jimbu
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dude, stop wishing they're cyans... they're not. don't eat them.
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angryshroom
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Yeah,
Sorry dude, I am 100% sure they are NOT Ps. cyanescens.
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mjshroomer
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Do not think so.
mj
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Gumby
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Nope, they're not cyans. Could be deadly... don't mess with them.
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Ganjawanna
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: @cro]
#2435710 - 03/15/04 04:09 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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tell me this isn't bluing.
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 Rebirtha
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thats not bluing. And its gills are rusty colored which means its could be a deadly galerina.
I don't mean to be pissy or whatever, but those people with the green names know what they are talking about. DO NOT EAT THAT MUSHROOM!
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@cro
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They really don't look like cyans but if you want a true ID then just revisit the site and pick some fresh ones for us to ID. Read the sticky at the top of this forum to make sure you give us all the needed info. Like I said earlier, it does look like there is some staining but the other features don't match up and it is very hard to tell colors by pictures they have a weird way of changing thing on ya. The other features do match up to a galerina, which are poisonous, it just isn't worth it.
But again if you're so adament you found something then you won't mind travelling back to that spot and getting fresh ones. I would at least be interested.
Peace - @cro
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Gumby
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That's not bluing. Looks more like the blackening reaction that happens to aging Galerinas. Do not eat.
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Effed
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Gumby]
#2435891 - 03/15/04 05:06 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I got a notification of this thread, actually after I had looked at it.
My first thought was they look deadly, perhaps galerina.
As Gumby said DO NOT EAT
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ToxicMan
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As the other said, that's not blueing. It's darker, but it doesn't look blue. When we say blue, it means a clear, obvious blue color.
Since the gills are a rusty brownish color and the bruising is dark, perhaps black, that suggests Galerina. Some Galerinas are deadly and none should be eaten.
Happy mushrooming!
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mjshroomer
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Those are not Psilocybe cyanescens. HEre are a few images of some older specimens damaged formt he cold. You can see the dark deep bluing in some of them almost a blue-black,
Here you can see the stems are pure white with bluing. Not rustied and striate as in your oracheous cinnamin colored like yours.
More older speimens b with bluing in them form thge cold.
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Psilygirl
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yes, this late in the season they would have definitely have been as blue as the pics above shared by mj.
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Stymee
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Those aint Cyans.
Dry cyans look like this as posted be DH a couple days ago...
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Mitchnast
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Effed]
#2436879 - 03/15/04 08:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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my first instinct was galerena. im just about certain of it.
youed better not eat those
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jimbu
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Stymee]
#2437427 - 03/15/04 11:08 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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i hope to god he hasnt eaten them
pretty much every reply has been "not active, possibly poisonous" and yet he's still trying to prove they are active :\
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felix
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 Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Stymee]
#2438093 - 03/16/04 04:24 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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there are two kinds of 'cyans'..psilocybe cyanascens and copelandia cyanascens. definitely not a cyan though.
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Edited by felix (03/16/04 04:28 AM)
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mjshroomer
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: felix]
#2438293 - 03/16/04 06:58 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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And then there is Boletus cyanescens, a deadly shroom.
mj
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Mitchnast
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ahem, cyanfibrillosa 
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mjshroomer
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Mitchnast]
#2438702 - 03/16/04 09:57 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa, and that is a psilocybian shroom, not a poisonous one. This is a rarer PNW shroom, but has been known to sometimes appear in large quantieties in a single mulched patch.
Over 200 pounds of P. syanescens and P. cyanofibrilosa where shown at the 1982 Myco Media Conference to the participants at Breitenbuish's annual shroom shown back then.
It is psychoactive and non poisonous.
The caps however are brown light the P. stuntzii.s and is not chestnut like the Psilocybe cyanescens or P. subaeruginosa.
There is a beautiful phot of P. cyanofibrilosa in ADavid Arora's book, Mushrooms Dymitified labeled as P. cyanescens.
Both Paul Stamets, who took the photo, and David Arora have both been notified of this error over the past 12 years and neither have corrected the plates in the book.
mj
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Mitchnast
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oh mj, youre just bursting with information i said cyanfibrillosa to give an example of a mushrooms that could be dubbed a "cyan" if the species name was abbriviated, as per the previous posts.
the mushroom in the pic is obviously not one, and most likely deadly poisonous
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Rebirtha
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Mitchnast]
#2441054 - 03/16/04 08:31 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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jokes are always funnier when you have to tear em apart and explain them haha. i got it the first around
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deathcapcubensis
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Rebirtha]
#3379965 - 11/18/04 02:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonerguy
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Ganjawanna]
#3380353 - 11/18/04 04:06 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im with the others cyans will bruise blue and you will beable to tell. BTW the paper you have them on looks like Algebra, is it?
whoops didnt see this thread was started back in March
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Edited by Stonerguy (11/18/04 04:07 PM)
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Borealis
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Ganjawanna]
#3381409 - 11/18/04 07:54 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dood, you just revived a nine month old thread. Why?
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SweetLeaf
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: Borealis]
#3381998 - 11/18/04 10:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice one deathcap......
Edit: Lathers on another gallon of sarcasm......
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Edited by SweetLeaf (11/18/04 10:16 PM)
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Ice House Shaman
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Re: Sun Dried Cyans [Re: SweetLeaf]
#3382053 - 11/18/04 10:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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not only no but %$^# NO!
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deathcapcubensis
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Sorry guys I performed a search and this thread popped up and I had to respond...I didnt check the date.....but come on......I hope this guy didnt eat those...
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Borealis
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If he ate them, then his family is past the mourning stages..denial to acceptance.
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