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Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down
#24318693 - 05/14/17 11:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Traffic stop almost turns deadly for ELO officer morningjournalnews.com
EAST LIVERPOOL, OH - An hour after city Patrolman Chris Green responded Friday night with other officers to a traffic stop on Lisbon Street, he was being treated for a drug overdose.
Green responded and assisted in searching the vehicle being driven by Justin Buckel (see accompanying story), where suspected drugs were scattered about inside.
"When I got to the scene, he was covered in it. I patted him down, and that was the only time I didn't wear gloves. Otherwise, I followed protocol," Green said.
Within the past year, the department began providing special protective gear in the cruisers containing masks, gloves and other items for officers' use due to the potentially lethal effects of fentanyl, a synthetic opioid 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine, and carfentanyl, used as an animal sedative and said to be 10,000 times more potent than morphine.
About an hour after officers had returned to the police station with the suspects and the seized evidence, Buckel indicated he was not feeling well, and an ambulance was called.
"That saved my life," Green said.
Officers were standing about, just talking when someone pointed out to Green he had something - the suspected drug residue - on his shirt, and he swiped at it with his hand, wiping it off.
Within a few minutes, Green said, "I started talking weird. I slowly felt my body shutting down. I could hear them talking, but I couldn't respond. I was in total shock. 'No way I'm overdosing,' I thought."
Patrolman Rob Smith grabbed Green as he began to fall to the floor, and the ambulance crew already there for Buckel began working on Green, quickly administering him a dose of the opioid antidote Narcan.
"Apparently, I was in denial. I denied the Narcan," Green said, until other officers insisted and eventually, at the hospital, three additional doses had to be given to completely revive him.
"God was surely looking over me," Green said.
Chief John Lane agreed, saying his officer is lucky the effects hit him before he left the station that night.
"If he would have been alone, he would have been dead. That's how dangerous this stuff is. What if he went home and got it on his family members?"
Lane pointed out the car had child safety seats in the rear seat and the mother had come to the station in an attempt to retrieve it after the traffic stop, but he said efforts will be made to keep the vehicle from being used to transport children again.
"We're going to try and seize that car and destroy it. How do we neutralize it? It only takes one granule (of carfentanyl) to kill an adult. These people have no regard for anybody, not themselves, not the police, not their kids," Lane said. "Their priority is not about anything but that next high."
Green was treated and released Friday, and when contacted Saturday said he was still feeling the effects of the substance, saying his head "feels like it's in a vice grip, my heart feels like I got kicked in the chest and my stomach feels like I have a case of the flu. I can't wrap my head around (why anyone would take the drugs)."
He said the passenger in Buckel's vehicle also ended up taken to the hospital, which was not confirmed Saturday, and said the clothes he was wearing Friday night had to be thrown away.
Green said Saturday afternoon he expects felonious assault charges could be charged in relation to the exposure from the suspected drugs.
He said these powerful drugs "are not only killing the people willing to shove it into their own veins, now they're killing people like me and my family."
Service-Safety Director Brian Allen said Saturday evening, "We take the safety of our officers very seriously and will do our best to protect them. I was very impressed with the quick response of our other officers and emergency personnel."
Allen added, "It's time our state gets tough on those who peddle this poison and creates laws to protect those who protect us."
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Ythan] 1
#24318746 - 05/14/17 11:58 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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"When I got to the scene, he was covered in it. I patted him down, and that was the only time I didn't wear gloves. Otherwise, I followed protocol," Green said.
Allen added, "It's time our state gets tough on those who peddle this poison and creates laws to protect those who protect us."
Yea! We need new laws banning these drugs! Or at least new rules for how cops conduct themselves to prevent things like this! We need to ban these drugs and pass protocols that cops wear gloves during pat downs. Wait a second, your saying these laws already exist but aren't followed? Maybe he is right. If we pass even more laws the problem should solve itself I would imagine.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Dr. Funtime]
#24318816 - 05/14/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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We need cops to stop patting people down like that in the first place?
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Fractal420] 1
#24319057 - 05/14/17 03:13 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Green said Saturday afternoon he expects felonious assault charges could be charged in relation to the exposure from the suspected drugs.
This is the retarded bit. Officer McIdiot negligently exposes himself to a dangerous substance by not following protocol, and then charges the guy that he was arresting for assault? It's not like the guy in the car *tried* to dose the cops by blowing it in their faces or anything, did he?
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Ythan]
#24319074 - 05/14/17 03:25 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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jeez...
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Kryptos]
#24319079 - 05/14/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I find this to be pretty far fetched. Enough opiates to overdose probably costs what, $100? And he absorbed maybe 1/10 of what got on his body. So he managed to get ~$1000 worth of drugs on his skin from a pat down? So the guy who he patted down just randomly had $10,000 of drugs just dusted all over his body? This sounds like the cop took some on purpose. I could be missing something here though.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: TelaCat]
#24319161 - 05/14/17 04:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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TelaCat said: I find this to be pretty far fetched. Enough opiates to overdose probably costs what, $100? And he absorbed maybe 1/10 of what got on his body. So he managed to get ~$1000 worth of drugs on his skin from a pat down? So the guy who he patted down just randomly had $10,000 of drugs just dusted all over his body? This sounds like the cop took some on purpose. I could be missing something here though.
They mention carfentanyl, which is an extremely powerful drug. It's an analogue of fentanyl, and stronger. I can see how a small amount of it could be inhaled, accidentally eaten etc, and cause an OD. Plus price doesn't matter, some people get this stuff dirt cheap, and you could overdose on way less than 100 dollars worth.
I agree though that I doubt dude was dusted from head to toe lol. He probably just had some on his clothing.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: bigbitch]
#24319455 - 05/14/17 06:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bulk fent analogues from the source are probably cheap enough less then 1$ worth is plenty for an OD... They are insanely potent and toxic.
Pretty sure some of them are strong enough they could be put on blotter... Same for some of the crazy benzo analogues I believe
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: musiclover420] 1
#24319475 - 05/14/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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The way they police and customs open up bags of "mystery powder", they're practically asking to be exposed to it.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
#24320927 - 05/15/17 10:41 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shame he survived to ruin more lives, imo.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Ophanim] 1
#24322985 - 05/16/17 12:47 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Junkie Cop is at it again
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Atreyu]
#24326402 - 05/17/17 07:46 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Picked up a needle cap in the stairwell. Big mistake felt like I was on angel wings for a hour.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: downlowfunk]
#24338430 - 05/21/17 04:27 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why is the suspect covered in powder, not reported to have overdosed.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: durian_2008]
#24338627 - 05/21/17 06:01 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said: Why is the suspect covered in powder, not reported to have overdosed.
They probably left him to rot in prison.
Or maybe he was smart or just lucky and managed to avoid ingesting any.
The cop probably forgot to wash his hands and rubbed his eyes or something as it says he started feeling strange an hour after patting the guy down. If he had OD'd on the scene it probably would have hit him much faster but I don't know much about fent
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: musiclover420]
#24338632 - 05/21/17 06:03 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Bulk fent analogues from the source are probably cheap enough less then 1$ worth is plenty for an OD... They are insanely potent and toxic.
Pretty sure some of them are strong enough they could be put on blotter... Same for some of the crazy benzo analogues I believe
The analogs go for about 250-500 on the darknet depending on which one, and as far as benzo analogs on blotter.....you do know xanax can be prescribed in as low as 250 ug right? They have xanax blotter LOL. Most benzos are dosed by milligram, aside from valium, temazepam, and a few others.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: vandago]
#24338637 - 05/21/17 06:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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250mg is 1/4th a gram... Did you edit it to ug?
Still there are crazy potent benzo analogues that are super potent even in the ug range I believe.
250ug of xanax seems like it would be a serious microdose compared to how much most people actually eat...
The price I was talking about is from the Chinese labs that bulk manufacture many RC's. Most of those darknet vendors probably buy it in bulk considerably cheaper then sell it in smaller amounts for a steeper price. It's not a new system. It's a big part of why prohibition is majorly flawed.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: musiclover420]
#24338934 - 05/21/17 08:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: 250mg is 1/4th a gram... Did you edit it to ug?
Still there are crazy potent benzo analogues that are super potent even in the ug range I believe.
250ug of xanax seems like it would be a serious microdose compared to how much most people actually eat...
The price I was talking about is from the Chinese labs that bulk manufacture many RC's. Most of those darknet vendors probably buy it in bulk considerably cheaper then sell it in smaller amounts for a steeper price. It's not a new system. It's a big part of why prohibition is majorly flawed.
I ninja edited it right when I posted it. I think the 1/4 mg pills are for weening down, but people do take that dose. My mom breaks half mg's in half and doses those for anxiety, so she doesn't actually get high.
Etizolam and clonazelam are both pretty strong, but I think the biggest risk factor on benzo RCs is the withdrawal being way more risky because you aren't under a doctors care. Benzo withdrawal is no joke, it's almost killed me and put me in the hospital a couple times this go around, I went way to much for way too long, and I'm finally weening off them, and people are acting like at this point I can help anything more than I am. I still have to take one in the morning and at night, but that's half of what I was taking ( kpin ). I don't feel like being on them anymore, everything is calm sure, but there's no emotion, everything's so fucking hollow.
I remember last time I was on them I drank and it was a hell of a lot "funner" overall, but I don't drink anymore.
I really feel like there's more to the original story in the op than reported. It is bad around here though, nasty shit everywhere. Extremely glad my addiction never got bad enough where I was buying street opiates, or opiate analogs. I do enjoy ope's but only pills I get from a doctor. I tend to try to avoid doing things that can completely kill me without warning ( od wise ).
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: musiclover420]
#24345816 - 05/24/17 11:19 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said: Why is the suspect covered in powder, not reported to have overdosed.
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musiclover420 said: They probably left him to rot in prison.
Makes me wonder whether the suspect was also in full crisis, just not worth mentioning as a human life.
I don't think jails meet Enlightenment standards as a sort of reformatory.
While it does seem perfectly-obvious, that someone selling elephant tranquilizer is a dealer of death, it was also tested on mice, with fewer-reported side effects than the conventional opiates.
The fantastic way it has been portrayed by prohibitionists has probably made it more-appealing to irresponsible thrill seekers. Drug dealers should be thanking those yellow journalists.
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: durian_2008]
#24348160 - 05/25/17 05:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I bet this story is exaggerated as fuck.
I doubt he even touched any visible amount of carfentanil. Btw they keep mispelling that.
In any case, its the cop's job. If he decided to pat someone down, and the guy did not assault him, its that clear. And really if the suspect was the one covered in carfentanil, what the hell happened to him? If nothing, then this story is just bullshit. On the other hand, maybe he OD'ed, if a cop even just touched him and OD'ed....either way this story sounds like bullshit, similar to "bath salt" scare stories
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: musiclover420]
#24348186 - 05/25/17 06:15 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: 250ug of xanax seems like it would be a serious microdose compared to how much most people actually eat...
The price I was talking about is from the Chinese labs that bulk manufacture many RC's. Most of those darknet vendors probably buy it in bulk considerably cheaper then sell it in smaller amounts for a steeper price. It's not a new system. It's a big part of why prohibition is majorly flawed.
They do make .25 xanax, the lowest dosage form (just "legit" fda approved big pharma xanax)
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Re: Cop overdoses on fentanyl just from patting a suspect down [Re: Fractal420]
#24349568 - 05/25/17 04:52 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya. I mean a bar is 2 mg with 4 sections to break off, and I feel effects from half a mg with no tolerance. .25 is good for tapers, or for people who microdose it so they don't take too much and get wasted. A full bar puts me down. I really don't care for xanax much aside from emergency's.
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