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damn this guys a noob:)
    #2430950 - 03/14/04 10:43 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

so this guy was pc his jars figured he would put the lids on nice and tight so no water would get in...geuss he didnt figure it would can em. omg those sobs were hard to get of.. luckily they were plastic so he could put a knife under the lid to let some air in so he could actually get the suckers opened..sorry i jsut felt i should share this stupid story tha i heard:) i thought it was rather a funny situation when i heard it

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2430970 - 03/14/04 10:50 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

so there is no air exchange for the jars?


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2430977 - 03/14/04 10:55 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

If you had holes in the lids, it shouldn't have been a problem getting them off...

How did you innoculate them??

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: PseudoPsychoSix]
    #2430983 - 03/14/04 11:00 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

the guy used a glovebox in a hepa filtered room to innoc..and no air exchange...does pf use air exchange while in pc? i told him to go over the tek but he cant find anything on air exchange.. although he has now realized its much easier to just tighten lid and then screw it back off a little before using the pc

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: PseudoPsychoSix]
    #2430986 - 03/14/04 11:01 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

he prob mixed up his substrate, capped them, pc'ed, then was going to take them out and punch his holes. which consequently would have made the negative pressure a non-issue... :crazy:


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2430987 - 03/14/04 11:02 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

have you birth one of the cakes..without the holes in the lid?....i would think that they would just stall.


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: MilkVein]
    #2430992 - 03/14/04 11:04 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

dude. if there are no holes in the lid, then they never got innoculated...and plus he wouldn't have pc'ed them after innoculation....would kill the spores


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: MilkVein]
    #2430994 - 03/14/04 11:05 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

the guys jsut got done pc'in them if he birthed them yet he has the record for the fastest incubation time ever:) only time will tell on the stalling

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431002 - 03/14/04 11:08 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

1. mixed substrate
2.filled jars
3.pced mix with verm barrier on top
4. let cool over night
4a. felt real dumb when he almost sprained his wrist trying to get lid off
4b used butter knife to get a lil air in so he could open them
5. innoced in gb with hepa running in room for 20 mins before
6. placed in incubator

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431007 - 03/14/04 11:10 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

Probably won't colonize all the way without having to put holes in it or take the lids off which would introduce contams at this point I would think...

Once the oxygen is used up they stop growing from what I understand... Thats why most people will tell you to take off tape over holes etc, flip jars upside down, to let co2 drain, and o2 get in.

If they do colonize I think it would be very very very very slow...

but what do i know...

Edit: Also taking the lids off the jars after pcing seems a bit risky IMO...

Edited by PseudoPsychoSix (03/14/04 11:11 AM)

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431008 - 03/14/04 11:11 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

i thought he poped the lid...shot them up...and replaced the lid....


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: MilkVein]
    #2431023 - 03/14/04 11:17 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

yup he realized it was risky to take lid off and innoc but he is still learning and jsut wanted to try it this way, could u still let some air exchange if u would jsut loosen the lid during incubation? iam pretty sure i have read that somewhere?

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431036 - 03/14/04 11:21 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

why not just punch a few holes....?


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2431039 - 03/14/04 11:23 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

ya thats what he was tellin me...was thinkin of maybe puttin some holes in some other lids puttin everything in gb and then switchin lids with no holes out for lids with holes and tyvek?

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431054 - 03/14/04 11:30 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

no need to get complicated....just put some holes in your lids and you'll be fine.


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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: hevvy_psi]
    #2431062 - 03/14/04 11:36 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

well the thing is, they are plastic easier said then done puttin holes in them need to take them off and drill the suckers...so since they need air and holes seem to be best as far as iam hearing here..iam thinking ill pc the new lids take em to my gb and swap non vented lids for ones with holes and tyvek

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Re: damn this guys a noob:) [Re: onelyte]
    #2431069 - 03/14/04 11:43 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

HOT FORK....will do the trick


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