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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25448158 - 09/09/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eth currently at 196USD
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BayerPhi
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tulipslave]
#25448161 - 09/09/18 04:45 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Time to buy.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: BayerPhi]
#25452605 - 09/11/18 03:14 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stellar lumens all day boys, depending on where it spikes to I might actually crash out 25% of my stellar in case bitcoin maybe possibly probably definitely dumps again
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Middleman
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#25452783 - 09/11/18 04:39 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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How exactly is XLM related to XRP?
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Middleman]
#25452824 - 09/11/18 05:00 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Used to be same chain. Ripple is offshoot
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Middleman]
#25453776 - 09/11/18 11:12 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Middleman said: How exactly is XLM related to XRP?
Both have same founder, XRP seems to be heavily geared towards and targets banks/financial systems, XLM has similar properties but also has smart contracts, is becoming an ICO platform, becoming a payment network, is going to be tokenizing assets, can already scale pretty well but has lightning network in the roadmap for this year, list goes on. Nothing aginst ripple and maybe it's doing some similar things but either way both are good buys IMO, I personally just like XLM's approach better and their partnerships recently are again, IMO, cementing them as a coin that's sticking around.
Edited by SirShroomsAlott (09/11/18 11:25 PM)
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#25473778 - 09/19/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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BTC is getting tight on the weekly. We're going to see a break soon. Right now I have everything in ADA. If we break down then I'm just going to double up around $5000. Is there anyone else that thinks we aren't going to plummet soon?
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#25474154 - 09/19/18 11:58 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said:
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Middleman said: How exactly is XLM related to XRP?
Both have same founder, XRP seems to be heavily geared towards and targets banks/financial systems, XLM has similar properties but also has smart contracts, is becoming an ICO platform, becoming a payment network, is going to be tokenizing assets, can already scale pretty well but has lightning network in the roadmap for this year, list goes on. Nothing aginst ripple and maybe it's doing some similar things but either way both are good buys IMO, I personally just like XLM's approach better and their partnerships recently are again, IMO, cementing them as a coin that's sticking around.
I like them both and own both. IMO I think who they target is more important than where they came from. If ripple manages to properly integrate and sell to the financial world that is basically a guarantee it will blow up for a bit then stay stable for a long time barring any huge epic failures or buyouts. The financial world doesn't get much more stable than the companies that run it all.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25474625 - 09/20/18 07:26 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: Hey Geo,
Have you claimed your tezos on the beta net? Have you been baking?
I'm pretty happy with the rewards. I have like $10K in ASIC'S and GPU's and I'm making more money right now on my staked Tezos than I am mining ETH & BTC.
about 10-12% for the past 2 months
Congrats sh4d0ws. I never got around to baking or delegating my XTZ. I was about to, but life has been busy and I didn't want to risk screwing something up on the command line for a few extra percent before we move out of the betanet. To be clear, the "10-12% for the past 2 months" that you are earnings is an annualized figure, correct? You didn't get a +10% reward inside of two months did ya?
My general sentiment on the market is that it is boring, but work is getting done. I have expected 2018 to be a lost year and for another major move higher to be years in the making. There was just too much excitement and irrational exuberance as the dawn of crypto became apparent to the world, now we need to firm up some self-regulating policies, more clarity on government imposed regulating policies, weed out the scams, build out real world applications and continue work on solving the altogether frustrating scalability issues that plauge the space without sacrificing security.
It's a long game. I don't really think we're going to break meaningfully lower on BTC, as the lows have more or less held throughout the year. Not saying it couldn't happen, but again, I am not actively trading in the space and my allocations are built for the years long haul. I am surprised how viciously ETH has fallen. I suppose a lot of it has to due with the incredible raises ICO's had over past years, and the overhang created by their desire to liquidate some of those holdings either as a hedge against further devaluation or (more hopefully) to use toward the buildout of their projects.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: geokills] 1
#25474703 - 09/20/18 08:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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As of Monday (the 16th) the betanet label was officially removed and "main net" has launched. Not sure if you had heard that.
There is a few wallets too, I use one for linux that has a GUI called Galleon, it's had a security audit or two done on it. And yes, 10-12% is an annualized figure... I think only like 60% of ICO wallets have activated their accounts and due to the low amount of people staking the returns are higher for those of us that are delegated or baking. Basically I think it's about 2x the rate it would be, as 5.51% is inflation rate if everyone staked.
They have a ledger (hardware wallet) baking and wallet app but it still uses command line and it's probably too much for a lot of people. I hear that ledger wallet gui support will be released in the next 2-3 weeks
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Lophosaurus]
#25476222 - 09/20/18 07:03 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said: BTC is getting tight on the weekly. We're going to see a break soon. Right now I have everything in ADA. If we break down then I'm just going to double up around $5000. Is there anyone else that thinks we aren't going to plummet soon?
I wanted to buy a bunch of XRP at 26 but everyone was saying it would drop further. And now it's at 44.
I see why geo isn't trading crypto, it's not behaving like a normal market. Low-volume and a cluster-fuck once a week. No way an ETF passes.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Middleman]
#25476989 - 09/21/18 03:43 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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XRP just recently had a big jump. I guess they connected some more countries to their network. I get pop up news a lot but other then skimming it for massive clusterfucks I don't read to much into it. Overall my portfolio is down so much at this point its long term hold em or bust.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: mndfreeze]
#25477339 - 09/21/18 07:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Big recovery as far as volume goes.. Saw it the other day at 199. Finally back over 200 bil, by 20, and hoping for the market to retain that. Thats the biggest deal with this market is overall volume, it has fallen considerably since last year.. Unlike the regular stock market where everyone is incentivized to keep money on instead of playing with it..(401k,ira,cap gains and such) My belief is that is what makes this thang so different. It also allows for good volaltility and gains if you keep a varied portfolio and liquidate on 10+% runups(not entire position but a chunk) it can make the determined quite well off. When/if we start seeing these currencies in our everyday lives ill be happy. I just wanna end the fed, dont even care/have the time to be rich off it. Really do hope the ones with best uses stick it out tho, there is great tech in this just waiting on scaling to be capable of adoption en masse(as geo stated). Would love a recovery back above 300 bil Wonder which markets bowed out over the past 6-8 months creating the downturn. Id guess profiteers in asia? Wish they would keep funds in play so this thing can keep building. Heres to scaling processes being solved!
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: ashfiken] 1
#25477835 - 09/21/18 11:59 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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As long as the coins trail BTC no independent life can be expected. All coins have the same weakness the unsupervised Wallets. Only the biggest failures have made it to public, smaller once still collect money and perform an exist scam, such as coinizy.
Eth or Ethereum is worth watching though is has half the age BTC has. Ethereum creating wealth has a nice analysis, also worth having a look at. Coins are here to stay IMO,
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: george698]
#25478712 - 09/21/18 06:08 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dammit I missed it! Guess I'll wait a couple weeks and buy in wherever it's at. Everyone was saying, "Alts are dead." And "XRP 18-10." I'm done listening to other people.
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Middleman]
#25478871 - 09/21/18 06:50 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think we could still go up. We were looking pretty dead, but things can change quickly. I think BTC will have to clear about $7400 this week to be bullish and about $7200 at the end of next week.
I just sold all my ADA and switched to ETH.
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Tulipslave
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: george698]
#25479298 - 09/21/18 09:31 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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george698 said: As long as the coins trail BTC no independent life can be expected. All coins have the same weakness the unsupervised Wallets. Only the biggest failures have made it to public, smaller once still collect money and perform an exist scam, such as coinizy.
i agree with you to an extent. until the coins/currencies are accepted EVERYWHERE and made available to EVERYONE, they will be nothing more than invesment/speculation opportunities
i'm quite curious as to how many of the active posters in this thread buy ACTUAL currencies, USD, Yuan, Euros, etc....and treats them as they treat their cryptos
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tulipslave]
#25479793 - 09/22/18 04:29 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like we probably won't see alts break away from their root coin (BTC/ALT) until enough adoption has passed and they are widely accepted, or they get big enough and BTC/ETH fall off. Kinda sucks because a lot of alts have better tech. :/
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: mndfreeze]
#25480214 - 09/22/18 08:33 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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but monero has use just not "irl"
and demius; i keep a few euro around same as silver and gold. i always like to be variable to be more able to cope with all situations however i have not invested in many "small" non use coins either i greatly value utility and hence purchase things i see that in. like the powerledger coin for electricity in aus or the smart contracts ether offers or the developing nation connectivity offered by stellar lumens also a big proponent of btc itself if we could make it more secure like monero id be all for it but instead invest more in monero bc i like meh privacy and meh droogs
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tulipslave] 1
#25480228 - 09/22/18 08:39 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tulipslave said:
i'm quite curious as to how many of the active posters in this thread buy ACTUAL currencies, USD, Yuan, Euros, etc....and treats them as they treat their cryptos
There is a marked difference between most cryptocurrencies and general currency and it has to do with the fact that the term cryptocurrency is somewhat misleading. While crypto assets can be used as a medium of exchange, they may not yet meet the requirements of prevalence and generalized use to reasonably be considered a currency as it is commonly understood. Many crypto assets also carry attributes beyond being a medium of exchange, such as a fractional undivided interest in a limited supply of units that provide to the holder voting rights or other rights of network participation not granted to those who do not hold the asset, as well as potential relative price appreciation derived from actions outside of the holder's individual control.
These extra attributes of many crypto assets are at the heart of the current debacle involving the Security and Exchange Commission's investigations into many crypto projects, which are being defined as a security or investment contract, because of the fact that, provided the development teams are genuine in rolling out a robust product that results in incremental public adoption, the investor who has purchased units of the crypto asset stands to receive a profit benefit from the underlying asset's price appreciation on account of the efforts of those other than him or herself.
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