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SirTripAlot
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24343617 - 05/23/17 04:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: "Render unto Caesar..."
No, Jesus respected the authority of the state.
Is that what he thought of Rome(Tiberius) and the Jewish authoirty? I whole heartedly disagree. If thats your interpretation..so be it...
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#24343626 - 05/23/17 04:48 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said:
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The Ecstatic said: "Render unto Caesar..."
No, Jesus respected the authority of the state.
Is that what he thought of Rome(Tiberius) and the Jewish authoirty? I whole heartedly disagree. If thats your interpretation..so be it...
uhhh, Jesus was apparently not good at being infallible.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: Cinnamon] 1
#24343668 - 05/23/17 04:59 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cinnamon said: Sounds great! close all the affordable restaurants so poor people can only eat $30 avocado toast when they go out.
Balls provided a good response already, but to add to that, it's NOT the expensive restaurants that are staying open, it's the higher rated "Yelp" restaurants that are staying open, which are often very inexpensive. Your article pointed out that "a one-star increase in rating is associated with more than a 50% decrease in the likelihood of going out of business", so lower rated restaurants are likely to go out of business anyway; a minimum wage increase just speeds that process along.
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Cinnamon said: I'm sure the employees of those companies are glad they lost their job so someone else could have higher minimum wage.
But it's already been shown there's not a 14% increase in unemployment, meaning people are able to get jobs in the higher rated restaurants that remain open and that are getting more business.
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hostileuniverse
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communism leads to higher wages
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#24343688 - 05/23/17 05:06 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said:
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Cinnamon said:
http://www.aei.org/publication/early-evidence-suggests-that-seattles-radical-experiment-might-be-a-model-for-the-rest-of-the-nation-not-to-follow/
If you had read the (more recent) paper that i cited, the way the i read yours, you would know why "city only" numbers can be misleading in this case.
Exactly. Plus Zappa already presented that chart in an article here, and got torn to shreds.
Here's the short rebuttal if you don't read the thread:
Why do conservatives keep saying Seattle's minimum wage hike has failed -- without data?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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hostileuniverse said:
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communism leads to higher wages
Who are you quoting, Mr Straw Man God???
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ballsalsa
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Cinnamon said: Sounds great! close all the affordable restaurants so poor people can only eat $30 avocado toast when they go out.
Balls provided a good response already, but to add to that, it's NOT the expensive restaurants that are staying open, it's the higher rated "Yelp" restaurants that are staying open, which are often very inexpensive. Your article pointed out that "a one-star increase in rating is associated with more than a 50% decrease in the likelihood of going out of business", so lower rated restaurants are likely to go out of business anyway; a minimum wage increase just speeds that process along.
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Cinnamon said: I'm sure the employees of those companies are glad they lost their job so someone else could have higher minimum wage.
But it's already been shown there's not a 14% increase in unemployment, meaning people are able to get jobs in the higher rated restaurants that remain open and that are getting more business.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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ballsalsa said:
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Cinnamon said:
http://www.aei.org/publication/early-evidence-suggests-that-seattles-radical-experiment-might-be-a-model-for-the-rest-of-the-nation-not-to-follow/
If you had read the (more recent) paper that i cited, the way the i read yours, you would know why "city only" numbers can be misleading in this case.
Exactly. Plus Zappa already presented that chart in an article here, and got torn to shreds.
Here's the short rebuttal if you don't read the thread:
Why do conservatives keep saying Seattle's minimum wage hike has failed -- without data?
Too Easy
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: SirTripAlot] 1
#24343758 - 05/23/17 05:22 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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SirTripAlot said:
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The Ecstatic said: "Render unto Caesar..."
No, Jesus respected the authority of the state.
Is that what he thought of Rome(Tiberius) and the Jewish authoirty? I whole heartedly disagree. If thats your interpretation..so be it...
How would referencing the Caesar apply to anything BUT Rome?
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24343778 - 05/23/17 05:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Commies are so awful becuase they ban people from the pub who they think hurt their feelings, fucking snowflake POS loser motherfuckers
Fuck this place
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Cyrus19
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hostileuniverse said: Commies are so awful becuase they ban people from the pub who they think hurt their feelings, fucking snowflake POS loser motherfuckers
Fuck this place
No don't go HU
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akira_akuma
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hostileuniverse said: Commies are so awful becuase they ban people from the pub who they think hurt their feelings, fucking snowflake POS loser motherfuckers
Fuck this place
LOL the pub is probably better off sticking to "whoa bro, what are you doing right now?" threads.
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Cyrus19
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: akira_akuma]
#24343818 - 05/23/17 05:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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hostileuniverse said: Commies are so awful becuase they ban people from the pub who they think hurt their feelings, fucking snowflake POS loser motherfuckers
Fuck this place
LOL the pub is probably better off sticking to "whoa bro, what are you doing right now?" threads.
People in the pub think doing lsd will make you a billionaire
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: Cyrus19]
#24343840 - 05/23/17 05:43 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn, would have been banned from that thread.
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Cyrus19
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: akira_akuma]
#24343846 - 05/23/17 05:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: damn, would have been banned from that thread.
One dude was like Hitler was so amazing because of drugs. I'm like
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akira_akuma
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: Cyrus19]
#24343851 - 05/23/17 05:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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drugs ruined Hitlor's mind, his constituents were fearful and thought to countermand his orders, because they thought he was so scatterbrained, so yeah, totally cool!
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ballsalsa
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hostileuniverse said: Commies are so awful becuase they ban people from the pub who they think hurt their feelings, fucking snowflake POS loser motherfuckers
Fuck this place
buck up, buttercup.
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: ballsalsa]
#24344239 - 05/23/17 08:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who's the snowflake here?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Cinnamon said: Sounds great! close all the affordable restaurants so poor people can only eat $30 avocado toast when they go out.
Balls provided a good response already, but to add to that, it's NOT the expensive restaurants that are staying open, it's the higher rated "Yelp" restaurants that are staying open, which are often very inexpensive. Your article pointed out that "a one-star increase in rating is associated with more than a 50% decrease in the likelihood of going out of business", so lower rated restaurants are likely to go out of business anyway; a minimum wage increase just speeds that process along.
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Cinnamon said: I'm sure the employees of those companies are glad they lost their job so someone else could have higher minimum wage.
But it's already been shown there's not a 14% increase in unemployment, meaning people are able to get jobs in the higher rated restaurants that remain open and that are getting more business.
Creating monopolies, then whining when it gets exploited by 'the 1%'.
You sound like Sanders 'if you can't afford to pay them 15 an hour, you don't deserve a business' On top of the ACA now and taxes, you now have to pay them 15 an hour.
Lmao
Why do you always dance around reality? if you boost the minimum wage, Things.will.close. People.will.lose.hours people.will.lose.jobs
raising the minimum wage in a shitty economy wont do anything or help anyone get anything more than they already can.
Just putting fingers in the ears and denying reality of business.
This is such a stupid discussion it doesn't go anywhere.
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ballsalsa
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Re: Why are communists so awful? [Re: Cinnamon] 2
#24344279 - 05/23/17 08:16 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cinnamon said: Just putting fingers in the ears and denying reality of business.
This is such a stupid discussion it doesn't go anywhere.
My data was more recent and more comprehensive than yours. Your own study's authors admitted that the percentages they came up with were basically meaningless, and that any effect observed should be considered a short term one.
Why do you insist on putting your fingers in your ears and denying reality?
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