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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: naum]
    #24316294 - 05/13/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: naum] * 2
    #24317139 - 05/13/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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naum said:The people I saw involved in orchestrating festival busts did not meet the descriptions in this thread. They looked just like your average young and pretty E-fairies.





Never trust an E-fairie. Never give money to an E-fairie. If the E-fairie is legit, they will give you free E if you want it.

I rarely trust other drug users, because the stakes in the game are very high. Eventually, you will be fooled by a disguise. It might not even be a disguise, it might be your competition dropping a dime to get you out of the way, or it might be someone who just plain doesn't like you for whatever reason.

I think the most important giveaway for a cop isn't any outfit or disguise. The most important giveaway is persistence (past reasonable "I need a fix, man") in attempting to get drugs from you and others.

One other thing that I should probably mention, some cops are *really* slick. I'm looking at DEA undercovers specifically here. I would be wary of the "perfect friend" that shows up right when you need it. I think Uncle Fester had a story in one of his books about a dude who was looking around for some precursors, when he came across a hippy looking dude who knew the lingo, had some stories to swap, and just happened to have a connection for super cheap precursors.

Turned out he was a DEA undercover, tipped off by a former business associate that got pinched. Of course, this is the kind of scenario where you're definitely a blip on a radar somewhere already.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: Kryptos]
    #24333641 - 05/19/17 05:40 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

When I got busted for psychedelic possession, it was a female. She was an actual narcotics agent, she looked to be in her mid 20's.  When I arrived at the point of meeting her I was approaching by another officer you would NEVER think would be a cop.  Neck tats, full sleaves, bald, looked like someone you would party hard with,  he wasn't the brightest either.  They thought the mescaline crystal I had was raw LSD or heroin.  They thought the rolls I had were "probably fake" then through a mini party when the kit came back positive for mdma...literally high fiving and screaming "got em!"  they found a bag of wine in my truck and quite literally thought it was a colostomy bag, I let him lay into me about how "disgusting and vile I was for just driving around pissing in a bag".....but man did he look like an aged user.  The rest of the ones who raided my house were all average joe and jane looking people, but I assume they typically were on the field raiding, and not doing controlled buys.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: vandago]
    #24333684 - 05/19/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Gotta watch out for those dreddy feddies

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: Bird_Guts]
    #24374163 - 06/03/17 04:12 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #24374227 - 06/03/17 04:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I think it's been covered multiple times that they can indeed hit a bong. It was my understanding that if an officer of the law had to do drugs to keep from blowing his cover, then he actually got extra pay on the gig for having to put himself on the line like that.  I can only assume most undercovers on the field develop an addiction of some sort at some time.  It's gotta be a terrible job on so many levels.  I could never understand why we took this path as a civilization. Paying armed citizens to play make believe with people to put them in a cage and steal all their belongings, while doing the same exact thing themselves that they are arresting for. It's a money and power game. 

I saw a cops facebook that said "My gang is bigger than your gang, remember that." and all of me wanted to message him "Ha I just joined a mosque, eat that!" but I let his stupid go on with the bullets he pumps into men women children and dogs.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: vandago] * 3
    #24376601 - 06/04/17 12:45 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Oh cops can do more than just hit a J if they have to in order to maintain their cover. A year ago I was outside a show at halftime in the smoking area and got approached by a 20something chick asking for a cig. So I gave her 1 and she's asking my name and told me hers was "Berkely". Then asked if I had any "hits" or doses. I had boomers and herb in my pocket but I was like nope can't help. Then I noticed her bouncing around to other ppl doing the same shit. So I moved over to the edge of the smoking area and some dude starts up a convo. Said he had never seen the band before and he prob wouldn't have if he hadn't found a $20 ticket outside. Still....these signals didn't compute at the time I was already half baked. Then the chick comes over to us both and she starts in hard again on me like looking me up and down saying "Come on man help me out I know you have something." And then it hit me....I was like you fucking bitch. Then she gives up and tells the dude next to me "I can't get shit out of these ppl....I mean I'm trying on every one that looks the part but I'm getting nothing." I'm thinking fuck me! Both of you are cops! Put out my cig and walked back inside. Watch out for the chicks.....dudes make dumb mistakes.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: BlueIndian]
    #24376613 - 06/04/17 12:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

If you are in the "jamband" scene you shouldn't have to ask if they target psyches. The answer is "Fuck yes they do!"

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: BlueIndian]
    #24376639 - 06/04/17 12:58 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

And at a show if someone starts chatting ask them how long they've been listening to the certain band, how many shows, they've seen, some favorite songs, etc....if they can't carry on a convo with you on that level it's a good indicator. But....like with the Dead, they've been around a long time so a "good" cop should do their research and be able to play that part. But the flip side to that is plenty of kids in the Dead lot have been facing stiff time and turned into informants. Dreads and such doesn't mean shit.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: BlueIndian]
    #24392889 - 06/10/17 03:19 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Yes they do but in a very different way than say cocaine or heroin/meth.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: tdubz] * 1
    #24404916 - 06/14/17 10:46 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

never sell/buy any psychedelic from someone you dont know

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #24405318 - 06/14/17 01:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well that's just not true.  We were all strangers once.

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: vandago]
    #24405323 - 06/14/17 01:30 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Time is a man made concept and it hinders perceptions.  If it takes you years to feel someone out as opposed to minutes, re-evaluate your goals and where you are trying to be.

As soon as you speak to, see, feel, or hear a person you start to know them.  You never truly know someone til you taste them :wink:

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Re: Do Undercover Cops go after Psychedelic users? [Re: triphead9428]
    #24457376 - 07/04/17 04:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
I have heard of many psychedelic users being busted by undercovers, and at one point in college I had an (obvious) undercover start repeatedly asking me for some "blotters, man" when I was wearing a particularly psychedelic wardrobe during an outdoor concert. Dude ended up getting at least somebody, because several people got arrested during that concert.

I think police put a lot of emphasis on catching psychedelic use, because every single bust I've read about is hyped up way more that it should be. Not like the regular "police seized 1 Kg of marijuana, worth $10,000!" overhype, but the kind where some dumbass kid with a few grams of shrooms ends up eating a ten year sentence with headlines like "Dangerously illegal narcotic mushroom kingpin captured!"




I've heard you can catch an undercover cop by making them do a bong rip. Joints don't work because they know how to fake a hit but they can't fake a bong rip.




And lace your weed with DMT for good measure :wink:

I went to a festival called Boombox in the Boondocks, which was outdoors in the forest.

Well, my gf and i were walking up this hill and two older military looking dudes with all dark clothes and hiking backpacks strolled by. They both eyed my GF and she noticed. My GF said it wasnt an erotic "hey girl" check out, but more like how an undercover cop would check out someone they think is carrying.

I didnt get busted but i remember those hardcore looking hikers.


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