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Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties?
#24277895 - 04/28/17 05:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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2 weeks ago I inoculated a bunch of jars with spores and had some coffee beans I got last Christmas lying around so I thought to experiment I'll add some to a few of the jars. All other variables are the same and I inoculated them in a random order and all were randomly PC's at 15 psi for 1 hour. But the jars with coffee added took much longer to show any signs of colonisation and the mycelium is growing much slower.
The jars in the middle are the coffees and every jar has shown at least a small amount of growth.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24277967 - 04/28/17 06:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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No. Mold grows on coffee easily
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278002 - 04/28/17 07:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's still entirely possible for coffee to have anti-fungal agents and some fungal types to be able to grow on it easily.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278030 - 04/28/17 07:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I use coffee in all my Subs. Never an issue. Maybe maxwell is better than folders or Starbucks? I think so
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278034 - 04/28/17 07:26 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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No...that's why you have to pasteurize anything you add coffee to
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Leftfield420]
#24278044 - 04/28/17 07:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello,
The coffee was PC'd for 60 minutes, same as all of the other jars. The only difference between them is that some have a few coffee beans added. This for some reason seems to have slowed growth considerably. The Myc is still growing on the coffee just much slower.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278046 - 04/28/17 07:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea beans... I don't think they are edible for the myc. How much?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278065 - 04/28/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mynakedrat said: Yea beans... I don't think they are edible for the myc. How much?
120g of coffee beans spread out over 5 jars. I think they will eventually colonise, it will just take a lot longer.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278075 - 04/28/17 07:43 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anyway to quote another study, I'm are sure coffee has some effect on myc growth. Added to bulk it probally makes very little difference but when the spores are starting out it's gonna make a huge difference. Once the myc has colonised the coffee I'm sure the coffee nutrients are beneficial overall.
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For C. coffeicola the reduction of mycelial growth was 64.48%, when extracts of A. sativum, V. polysphaera and S. aromaticum were applied. Chalfoun et al. (2009) observed a reduction of 5.05% on the mycelial growth of C. coffeicola, when 10 µL of methanol extract of C. longa was applied on top of the disk that contained the fungus. By using the extracts of A. sativum, V. polysphaera, C. nardus and S. aromaticum against R. solani was observed a mycelial growth inhibition of 100%. The different results obtained using several species as biofungicides extracts suggests that there are many substances, which can still be exploited for the management of plant pathogens.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278102 - 04/28/17 07:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh in a spawn jar? No no. Just grains I add spent coffee grounds to the substrate when spawning to buckets. Sorry
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278117 - 04/28/17 08:02 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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No comparison is possible in this case because each jar is growing a different culture.
Coffee is a good microbe substrate in my experience; it molds over as fast as bread. It's also acidic and caffeinated, which are two undesirable qualities for mush cult.
I add the last espresso grounds to (sterilized) fruiting substrates. If anything, it gives traditional supplements like wheat bran a little kick.
For whatever reason, oysters seem to really love it.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24278129 - 04/28/17 08:07 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good info thanks. I left coffee put of My newest tub, was out of coffee lol
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278136 - 04/28/17 08:13 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I thought you use coffee with oysters to boost nitrogen
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278188 - 04/28/17 08:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kevlar123 said: Hello,
The coffee was PC'd for 60 minutes, same as all of the other jars. The only difference between them is that some have a few coffee beans added. This for some reason seems to have slowed growth considerably. The Myc is still growing on the coffee just much slower.
If you only pressure cooker 60 minutes there's your problem
Everything is contaminated anyway. Probably 50/50 your technique and then also inadequate sterilization
Looking up unrelated articles on scholar to try to back yourself up is confirmation bias at its finest
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278205 - 04/28/17 08:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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Kevlar123 said: Hello,
The coffee was PC'd for 60 minutes, same as all of the other jars. The only difference between them is that some have a few coffee beans added. This for some reason seems to have slowed growth considerably. The Myc is still growing on the coffee just much slower.
If you only pressure cooker 60 minutes there's your problem
Everything is contaminated anyway. Probably 50/50 your technique and then also inadequate sterilization
Looking up unrelated articles on scholar to try to back yourself up is confirmation bias at its finest
No need to be an arse mate, how is it confrontational bias? referencing is standard practice in science. When controlling for the all the variables all the jars were PC'd for 60 minutes and ONLY the coffee ones have poor growth. I quickly calculated P and its P = 0.0085, that coffee was the factor.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24278209 - 04/28/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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AndyHinton said: No comparison is possible in this case because each jar is growing a different culture.
Coffee is a good microbe substrate in my experience; it molds over as fast as bread. It's also acidic and caffeinated, which are two undesirable qualities for mush cult.
I add the last espresso grounds to fruiting substrates. If anything, it gives traditional supplements like wheat bran a little kick.
For whatever reason, stones and oysters seem to really love it.
It was different spores that colonised each jar, but a comparison is definitely available, that's why statistics exist in science because you can't test under perfect conditions.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278217 - 04/28/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well searching for the answer you want to hear as a keyword is the worst way to research unbiased.
You can't calculate an honest P because there's no controls, and there's no experiment set up.
Since you insufficiently sterilized the coffee contaminated quickly. It has nothing to do with any anti fungal properties. Using coffee you have to be extra diligent
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278218 - 04/28/17 08:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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How do you know exactly what spore grew where? There are literally thousands of them, all with different Genetics. You are looking to find a way to prove you are correct, that's all. Humans do that
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278223 - 04/28/17 08:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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WTF, please don't pigeon hole me. I made an observation that I've reported to the forum and I posted some papers that were inline with my observation. Ad Hominem logical fallacies against myself don't change these observations.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278227 - 04/28/17 08:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pigeon holing, put into a classification. So you aren't human, and prone to Mistakes? You aren't pressure cooking long enough. You got lucky they all didn't get fucked up.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278237 - 04/28/17 09:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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K, if you want to learn you will.
What you don't want to hear is the answer. when you can handle hearing that you fucked it up and it had nothing inherently to do with coffee we'll be here to help.
Coffee is a contamination magnet. All your jars are bacterial anyway bacteria just got more busy in the coffee jars and the mycelium couldn't do anything. The other jars have bacterial mycelium
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278245 - 04/28/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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PCing for for 60 minutes is widely reported to be long enough on this forum.
How does that even change the parameters? The only thing different between the jars is the coffee beans. Saying your human and prone to mistakes is just a cunty way to say go fuck yourself, and falsely present some faillicy to my results. Under the circumstances I presented coffee certainly does have a statistically significant effect on myc growth. And it has some peer review published research to back it up. Every human is prone to error for sure that's why we have statistics and peer review.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278251 - 04/28/17 09:07 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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K, dude.
RR says it's not a contamination magnet btw. Again you try and turn this into a personal attack but I was just presenting my observations. You know adding to the mushroom cultivation forum. Peer reviewed reseach from multiple sources is just confrontational bias. I'll remember that in future.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278254 - 04/28/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, no comparison is possible here. The single most important factor that affects all the others, the actual strain itself, is completely uncontrolled.
You're growing a different and impossible-to-assess spore polyculture in each jar of what appears to be improperly sterilized grains. The whole beans don't help either, as those simply aren't used in any stage of mush cult.
If you want to do a meaningful comparison, please see the last section of my GLC primer for a nice experiment you can try. I'm genuinely interested in the results, but only if you control for the strain.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278267 - 04/28/17 09:15 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You contaminated all your jars The coffee ones got even more fucked
You'll realize you fucked it up when you try to spawn those "clean" jars and you get a bunch of mold before mushrooms
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: AndyHinton]
#24278272 - 04/28/17 09:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to sterilize moar Kebap123, let's do shit right and then get all scientific about it, no Ads here.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278281 - 04/28/17 09:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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dhype773 said: I thought you use coffee with oysters to boost nitrogen
Nitrogen addition is one of the benefits of using spent coffee grounds, you are correct.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278290 - 04/28/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aight bro, Why did only the coffee ones "get more fucked up" then than the none coffee ones when the all had the exact same treatment. Under these circumstances why would you not think that the coffee was also a factor or are you suggesting completely down to chance and coffee has no effect?
we will see, in the name of science i'll try to grow shrooms from all of these jars.
Peace Kevlar
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278292 - 04/28/17 09:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you put genetic cloned mycelium isolate into each jar? Or a Multi spore syringe
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278296 - 04/28/17 09:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you put genetic cloned mycelium isolate into each jar? Or a Multi spore syringe
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278314 - 04/28/17 09:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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60 minutes PC not adequate for sterilization?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278318 - 04/28/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah it was a multispore, I'm not saying the generics were identical.
Consider if they were testing a new drug, they wouldn't be able to test it on genetically identically people. Say they had 15 genetically diverse people all with cancer and they gave 5 (Coffee jars) an anti-cancer drug and gave the remaining 10 (non-coffee jars) a placebo and at the end of the study only the 5 (coffee jars) given the drug were free of cancer while the other 10 that were given the placebo still had cancer. You would then do a statistical analysis and probably think that when trying to control for as many factors as possible that the drug probably (not definitely) had a statistically significant effect on destroying the cancer.
Then the scientists looked at other studies which showed the drug had anti-cancer properties when testing in rats, confirmational bias? or just standard scientific procedure?
I just wanna present my observations, honestly is not what this forum is for?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278321 - 04/28/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kevlar123 said: Aight bro, Why did only the coffee ones "get more fucked up" then than the none coffee ones when the all had the exact same treatment. Under these circumstances why would you not think that the coffee was also a factor or are you suggesting completely down to chance and coffee has no effect?
we will see, in the name of science i'll try to grow shrooms from all of these jars.
Peace Kevlar
The coffee is more food for the bacteria in all of your jars. The bacteria is so rampant in the coffee jars that the mycelium didn't recover at all. In the non coffee jars you have some recovery but they look like shit too.
Your "observations" are you not admitting you don't know shit about growing mushrooms and trying to blame it on ingredients
Once you get over thinking you did it right you'll be able to work on doing it right. If you blame coffee you'll keep fucking it up
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278335 - 04/28/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kevlar123 said: Aight bro, Why did only the coffee ones "get more fucked up" then than the none coffee ones when the all had the exact same treatment. Under these circumstances why would you not think that the coffee was also a factor or are you suggesting completely down to chance and coffee has no effect?
we will see, in the name of science i'll try to grow shrooms from all of these jars.
Peace Kevlar
The coffee is more food for the bacteria in all of your jars. The bacteria is so rampant in the coffee jars that the mycelium didn't recover at all. In the non coffee jars you have some recovery but they look like shit too.
Your "observations" are you not admitting you don't know shit about growing mushrooms and trying to blame it on ingredients
Once you get over thinking you did it right you'll be able to work on doing it right. If you blame coffee you'll keep fucking it up
Well I never said I knew shit about growing mushrooms and thats why I'm here. Again with the personal attacks. But thanks for replying mate.
I guess you should write to all those peer reviewed journals and tell them they are wrong and if they disagree it's confirmation bias and humans make mistakes.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Myco Mako]
#24278347 - 04/28/17 09:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Myco Mako said: 60 minutes PC not adequate for sterilization?

Disregard... Another cup of coffee sorted it out... 6 vs 9 just didn't compute obviously...
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Myco Mako]
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278387 - 04/28/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're not understanding anything im saying then twisting it to protect your ego.
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I guess you should write to all those peer reviewed journals and tell them they are wrong and if they disagree it's confirmation bias and humans make mistakes.
I was talking about you and the articles you found having nothing to correlate to what we're doing. I didn't say anything about the articles themselves or their contents.
I can post irrelevant articles too https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16049733/
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278401 - 04/28/17 10:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: You're not understanding anything im saying then twisting it to protect your ego.
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I guess you should write to all those peer reviewed journals and tell them they are wrong and if they disagree it's confirmation bias and humans make mistakes.
I was talking about you and the articles you found having nothing to correlate to what we're doing. I didn't say anything about the articles themselves or their contents.
I can post irrelevant articles too https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16049733/
The title of this post was 'Does coffee have anti-fungal properties?'. We grow fungus and we use coffee, how is that not related?. Every fucking sentenced is like loaded spring to cut into my credibility and motivations. I mean why would anyone even think to consider actual science when you just try and discredit the person you arguing with.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278417 - 04/28/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your asking the wrong question dude. You came here thinking your coffee jars were not growing because of the coffee. Its you and your technique.
Even if coffee has some anti fungal properties it's well documented that mold grows rampantly on it and people have grown cubensis from straight coffee as well for fucks sake.
Get over the science bullshit and open your mind to learning where you fucked up
You're talking to me like I don't consider science. Im the one people go to for peer reviewed articles because I have access to most of it and can put them back into layman's terms.
Your statistics class and journal review midterm assignments ain't going to help you grow mushrooms
I do believe you came here to figure out how to grow mushrooms not pick our brain about coffee being anti fungal in a place where people grow fungi on coffee
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278422 - 04/28/17 10:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm open to learning that's why I'm here, trying to improve with every batch. I mean science ain't bullshit though mate. You are an arsehole btw and I mean that in the nicest way.
Peace Kevlar.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278432 - 04/28/17 10:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: flaming.
Coffee is beneficial to the mushroom culture, but as mentioned above is very finicky, and must be pasteurized, or sterilized properly in order be be utilized as a sustainable additive to substrate materials successfully.
If your grow using coffee contaminated, the sterile technique was off, proper sterilization, and, or pasteurization was not employed, cross-contamination, dirty inoculum, or a combination of several of the aforementioned issues to all of the above.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
#24278451 - 04/28/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sounds like you're mad because I don't blow glitter up asses when I post I come off as an ass to few people. A reflection of the way they're acting here
Seems you're interested in science
Im the sole one responsible for soaking grains to germinate endospores becoming outdated info. Soaking only applies to grains that need it for hydration not anything to do with endospores
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21604725
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278465 - 04/28/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Would you like a cookie?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
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Nope just showing guy he's a moron today for thinking im not into science or something.
This place is a popularity contest for some. Thats why people are always asshurt that I'm not glitter and rainbows when I come across threads like this. You'll do giveaways and coddle balls to have people think you're the nicest coolest most stand-up gentlemen researcher here.
I could give a shit im here to help. In more of a bar rescue, kitchen nightmares sort of way. I rip the bandaid off the quicker you want to listen the quicker you can get the most for your efforts and materials.
Now we're getting off topic. I'm going to evacuate this disaster of a thread. The information is here use it as you will OP. If you want to grow I'll be around if you don't want my help that's fine too. Im always around if you need
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
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I thought this thread was closed? Well done mate, you've contributed a shit ton to the community certainly I don't doubt it's very wise to follow your advice. Anyway, I think think this discussion has run it's course.
Peace out Kevlar
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hamloaf said: Would you like a cookie?
Really mate? Just gonna be an arsehole for the sake of it?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278485 - 04/28/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not closed ham likes to pretend he is a mod lol. The moral authority on how I should post nicer even when people need a good realty adjustment
We all start somewhere I remember where I started. im grateful people like cronicr and pasty told me I was a dumbass when I was a dumbass now I am where I am today because I learned rsther than taking it personally
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278486 - 04/28/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm just joshin' y'a, bod. Sorry. I' shouldn't do that.
I wouldn't be too concerned with it. It's not you, or I who are face to face with contamination, and do not know why.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
#24278488 - 04/28/17 11:07 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know im rude sometimes. But someone showed me this TV show kitchen nightmares a year ago. And im totally on board with the be real with people school of thought  Despite it being TV drama fucking Gordon Ramsay is my hero
Help my restaurant is dead no one comes. My food is awesome though I don't know why this is happening
Gordon comes tells dude his food sucks dick and that's how to fix the problem. Some people learn and take chef's advice some people keep their ego intact and then lose their restaurant and house and cars lol
Maybe Gordon is an ass sometimes but he helps you not lose your million dollar opportunity because you didn't want to hear that you cook for shit.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278497 - 04/28/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mate come one, acting all high and mighty everyone is a beginner at some point and everyone makes mistakes, you can read as many posts as you want as a beginner but nothing beats experience. I hardly think my post was so inflammatory that you have to constantly insult me, but hey my obvious expectation for rainbows and praise was not met.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24278498 - 04/28/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Im thoroughly offput that OP took tons of very helpful and concise advise and criticism and labeled it an "ad hominem" attack on his character. That couldn't be further from the truth.
Bod is trying to help you and you are readily disgarding valuable help because ???
OP could use a dash of maturity and humility in his grain jars.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Munchauzen]
#24278509 - 04/28/17 11:18 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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WELL THAT WAS FUN TO READ ON MY LUNCH.
I LIKE COOKIES
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
#24278525 - 04/28/17 11:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The power of life, and death are in our words. Do you choose to breath life into the world, or death?
I LIKE COOKIES TOO
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Munchauzen]
#24278530 - 04/28/17 11:26 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shit man it's like being in school again. The topic of the post was pretty clear and o was trying to stay on discussion. I mean being called a moron and I'm posting to keep for my ego are really helpful. I'm sorry for posting I really am. All the white knights in here running to the poor bods aid. Fuck it, why does it even matter.
Laters.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278542 - 04/28/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh yet another sensitive OP who can't handle criticism..
The issue is people gave you the answer, at least 3 times over, and you didn't accept the answers. You tried to prove your findings with research papers over us who have the experience to know what contamination's look like. Then you argued against proper sterilization techniques. 60 minutes was the norm probably in the 90s. 90 minutes was the norm up til around 2010ish and now 2 hours is the most recommended sterilization time. Honestly you argued against every piece of advice given, so they felt the need to prove themselves to you, and ofc to you that's acting all high and mighty now.
The question you asked was also answered. Molds love coffee, so no it isn't all that "anti-fungal"
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278559 - 04/28/17 11:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Using cofee grinds is fucking stupid. Put some out on a counter next to coir and watch what gets covered in trich faster. One important thing to realize when browsing this site is that because someone got a way with doing something in doesnt make it a good idea. Depending on where you live there are a wide variety of possible spore loads in the air. You could live in a dry place with not much growing.Or you could live here where it's wet and warm(like my pussy) and theres shit growing and sending out spores in every possible nook and cranny.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Mad Season]
#24278562 - 04/28/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean what even is a discussion? I actually thought it it was to discuss things. Evidently I was wrong.
So what is the conclusion. It certainly seems that vstrong coffee has anti-fungal properties, but not significant enough to effect cube growth and the nutrients are helpful for cultivation.
Cheers guys I look forward to future discussions
Regards Kevlar
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Love_spirit]
#24278563 - 04/28/17 11:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice one. Pussies grow all kinds of stuff!
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278570 - 04/28/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Op, aren't you the one adding nitrogen Flakes to your subs also?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278575 - 04/28/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yep
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278578 - 04/28/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haha. It was actually to a 50/50 sand coir mixture to my acacia seedlings. But hey let's shit on Kevlar while it's still fashionable. I'm sure the group will approve big your actions.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278582 - 04/28/17 11:43 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nothing like scoring points trying to humiliate someone I'll n front of a group w while you seek approval from the 'big names'.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278584 - 04/28/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awe poor Kevlar <3 how about some mushrooms?    
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278586 - 04/28/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ah, I didn't know it was for acacia. Mimosa takes a long time to grow where I live. Starts fast, but then slows for years.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Josex]
#24278593 - 04/28/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yo Kebap, you shouldn't be giving a fuck about what a bunch of avatars on the internet say
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278595 - 04/28/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's fine guys it's actually proven that humiliation of one group member improves the bonding of the other members. The military use this alot to improve moral.
I'm happy you can bond over insulting me.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278600 - 04/28/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love how it's just about bonding to us for you, and has nothing to do with how you reacted to people's comments.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278602 - 04/28/17 11:51 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, mate who does not love a good bonding session?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278605 - 04/28/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anyways you seem to have figured shit out, so nobody really gives a fuck anyways. The people on here only care about the good information being spread. There's other threads for bonding.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Josex]
#24278608 - 04/28/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Josex said: Yo Kebap, you shouldn't be giving a fuck about what a bunch of avatars on the internet say 
Hey mate gotta admit, I'm a human but yeah I'll give a shrug.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Mad Season]
#24278610 - 04/28/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Anyways you seem to have figured shit out, so nobody really gives a fuck anyways. The people on here only care about the good information being spread. There's other threads for bonding.
For real mate. Pleased to me you guys anyway. I'm Kevlar 24 and interested in growing shrooms. I'm at uni in the UK and I like folk music and getting high.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278619 - 04/28/17 11:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Folk music!
That explains it
Just pulling your leg. Welcome
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: mynakedrat]
#24278624 - 04/28/17 11:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread makes me want coffee, and cookies.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278625 - 04/28/17 11:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm actually a little proud, most I've ever gotten is a couple of replies.
Seriously it's good to know you guys care. Looking forward to many successful growths.
Peace out and love. Kevlar.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278650 - 04/28/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Again with the personal attacks." No that constructive criticism from Bod. Just swallow your pride, listen, and learn. He WILL guide you in the right direction.
When he first responded to some of my post, I had the same feeling at first. I quickly realized to do just what I told you. To many people get their panties all up in a bunch just because someone didn't sugar coat shit for them. You will be fine and you will learn to grow shrooms if you just accept what "Trusted Cultivators" tell you. They do have that "Trusted Cultivator" tag for a reason.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Mad Season]
#24278651 - 04/28/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: 60 minutes was the norm probably in the 90s. 90 minutes was the norm up til around 2010ish and now 2 hours is the most recommended sterilization time.
I'm recommending 2.5 hours now. Gotta stay ahead of the times and 2 hours is so 2017...
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Myco Mako]
#24278656 - 04/28/17 12:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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How do I get my trusted cultivator tag? I've read all the posts and I've got 3 weeks experience. What else do I need to do? Is it like quests in Zelda or not?
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Kevlar123]
#24278666 - 04/28/17 12:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Kevlar123 said: It's fine guys it's actually proven that humiliation of one group member improves the bonding of the other members. The military use this alot to improve moral.
I'm happy you can bond over insulting me.
It was also used for years, in some schools, to deter children from bad habits. You keep taking as people just want to rip you a new one for the fuck of it. That's not it!
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Myco Mako]
#24278674 - 04/28/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is using spent coffee grounds in the sub with C/V/G during Bucket Tek for mono tubs worth it? I've seen a few posts that suggest it, mentioning the Gypsum counters the acidity of the Coffee. While others mention the Coffee has to high an acidity lvl, that discourages mycelium growth...
And, does Coffee have nutrients that are worth using? or is it just some silly garnish ppl like using for some odd reason?
(Still trying to dial in my mono tub schteeze....
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24278675 - 04/28/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said:
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Kevlar123 said: It's fine guys it's actually proven that humiliation of one group member improves the bonding of the other members. The military use this alot to improve moral.
I'm happy you can bond over insulting me.
It was also used for years, in some schools, to deter children from bad habits. You keep taking as people just want to rip you a new one for the fuck of it. That's not it!
Ooh baby, I've got loads of bad habits. Cheers anyway dude advice taken on board.
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24278682 - 04/28/17 12:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Newb.00mer said: Is using spent coffee grounds in the sub with C/V/G during Bucket Tek for mono tubs worth it? I've seen a few posts that suggest it, mentioning the Gypsum counters the acidity of the Coffee. While others mention the Coffee has to high an acidity lvl, that discourages mycelium growth...
And, does Coffee have nutrients that are worth using? or is it just some silly garnish ppl like using for some odd reason?
(Still trying to dial in my mono tub schteeze.... 
Don't do it unless you have experience doing good clean grows. There is nutrients, but mold. Loves it too!
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Re: Does Coffee Have Anti-fungal Properties? [Re: hamloaf]
#24278747 - 04/28/17 12:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: This thread makes me want coffee, and cookies.
Mmmm coffee AND COOKIES FUCK YEA
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