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when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis?
    #2427727 - 03/13/04 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? I just bought a quarter of cubensis. There are only 5 mushrooms with caps that are open. Most of the mushrooms are small with closed caps that are 2-3 inches long. Are they too young?. Sorry if this has all ready been posted i didnt have enough time to search. thanks


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: wert]
    #2427762 - 03/13/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocybin is produced in the mycelium so I imagine as soon as the fungus grows it starts producing. The younger the better, when the caps open they stop producing in the fuits.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: wert]
    #2428142 - 03/13/04 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Psilocybin is present from the mycelium stage up to fruiting. Smaller shrooms are actually more potent per unit mass.

And sorry, but not having time to search isn't much of an excuse. This info is in the FAQ.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: MarioNett]
    #2428654 - 03/13/04 09:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"Smaller shrooms are actually more potent per unit mass"

Got any references to back up this statement?

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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: MarioNett]
    #2428882 - 03/13/04 10:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Bluemeanie, From another thread said it well-
"Wrong! The breaking of the veil has no effect on the potency of cubensis fruits. There is NO evidence at all that proves this point. Quote me one reputable reference and ill believe it - and PF is not a reference because he still claims that BRF has more alkaloid precursors than other substrates - itself blatantly untrue.
Stamets suggests that cubensis should be havested when mature and AFTER the veil has broken. The mushroom fruit itself only begins to degenerate after the spores have been dropped at full maturity and fruits harvested at this time and dried into three grams are equally as potent as aborts dried and bioassayed as three grams dried. No difference perceivable and even if there were, it would be negligble.
Cubensis spore-races lose their veils at different times in the maturity cycle - if your claims were true then some races would be far more potent than others - such as the weaker B+ which maintains an attached veil for a considerably longer time than other cubensis races - again this is not correct. "


And , it takes longer by far to post and wait for answers than to search.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: Fick_Duck]
    #2428921 - 03/13/04 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah you cant say they stop makin magic when the viel breaks, but i do believe that when they first pop up they grow slow so their is more time to produce magic. And when they get bigger they start growing very quickly and cant produce magic as fast as the mushroom grows.. So they longer you wait the less potent they are with more weight.

Thats the way i always looked at it.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: Joshua]
    #2429741 - 03/14/04 12:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No, I guess I don't. That was the consensus among most people here back when I was learning basic growing, but maybe it's been proven inaccurate now(?)


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: MarioNett]
    #2430978 - 03/14/04 12:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think I've ever read any scientific literature that has addressed the issue. Opinions abound here at the Shroomery. Passing opinions as so is much better than passing them as fact.

I once ate 7 grams of freshly dried PR pins, I had a very weak trip and then proceeded to write out a take-home final for school. I once ate 80 fresh grams of Argentine pins and was rocketed into non-existance for a few hours. The same has occured with large fruits, sometimes I'll cruise, sometimes I'll rocket.

But, untill I see a scientific study, I'll consider the potency v. maturity debate ongoing.

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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2431363 - 03/14/04 03:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, lol. At first glance I thought it was the same person posting twice in a row (and arguing with themselves :P)


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: wert]
    #2432377 - 03/14/04 09:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm... I always thought that all mushrooms(of the same species/strain) have a relatively equal amount of psilocybin in them, so smaller mushrooms would have higher potency per mass. I thougth I remember reading that here... Correct me if I'm wrong becuase I'd like to know too.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: aje]
    #2432387 - 03/14/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

woah, joshua and super c have like really similar avatars. sorry had to point that out.


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Re: when does pcilocybin develop in Cubensis? [Re: whiterabbit13]
    #2432401 - 03/14/04 09:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I guess someone already pointed that out but w/e. And to put in my 2 cents , I always thought the smaller the shroom, the higher the potency. But psychopsil has a good point about it being about the same because the size and potency would even out through growth.

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