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tedoro
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Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what?
#24275398 - 04/27/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have an old Presto 21 quart PC. Been using it for years. I replace the gasket every 6 months or so. I use the PC twice a week.
Recently, I've realized my PC times are not long enough, so I've gone from 3 hours to 5.
I have 14 quarts of rye in four bags, and 3 quarts of water. (good procedure, spacing, pre-venting, etc)
But now my gasket is melting. Its OM Presto replacement part 09907
Its a bummer, but perhaps I need the AA which forgoes the gasket.
Advice?
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275404 - 04/27/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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3 hours? Why not just 90 minutes?
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tedoro
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: dhype773]
#24275409 - 04/27/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually, 5 hours
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275412 - 04/27/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Huge bags take much longer.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275418 - 04/27/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you running it three to five hours because the bags are really large? like to penetrate the grains deep in the middle? it seems like a long time but I've never used the bags before. also are you reducing the heat after your water/pc gets to temperature? or leaving it on High the whole time?
EDIT: oh you answered the cook time question while I was responding...haha
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Edited by Bensi (04/27/17 09:40 AM)
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275419 - 04/27/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah man, I have the same PC as you, but only use it for Pasties and jars. If you roll with giant bags, probably gotta bite the bullet and get the crazy expensive AA
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: dhype773]
#24275426 - 04/27/17 09:43 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seems odd they don't make the gasket out of high temp material. Kinda cheap of them.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275471 - 04/27/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just found an aftermarket gasket in a different color... maybe its not silly low temp rubber. (I realize most aren't PC'ing for this long, but still.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275485 - 04/27/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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They either melt or they don't. That gasket is at the same temperature 20 minutes into operation as it is 5 hours into operation. Maintained well a presto gasket lasts me over a year
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24275493 - 04/27/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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OK, So what gives then? Do Presto gaskets vary?
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275516 - 04/27/17 10:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you oil the gasket ever? What kind of oil?
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24275550 - 04/27/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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tedoro
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275552 - 04/27/17 10:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Presto doesn't recommend oiling... so I don't. this thing is only a few months old.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275554 - 04/27/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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That doesn't look like melt that looks like degradation from not being lubricated or using the wrong oil for lubricant
I use Vaseline it's the wrong kind of oil but the gasket lasts so long for me that I don't give a shit Silicone oil/grease will work great
They don't recommend it since they're assuming it's being used for food and they would have to trust everyone buys food grade lubricant and not only that, they also have to apply it properly to comply with it being food grade and food safe.
For mycology purpose, lube that bitch up
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275555 - 04/27/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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should I oil anyway?
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro] 1
#24275560 - 04/27/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It happened mostly in one session.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275563 - 04/27/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool!! Maybe I can oil my way out of this. What oil is best?
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: tedoro]
#24275606 - 04/27/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I use vegetable oil after every time I use it
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: dhype773]
#24275614 - 04/27/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you use a 'oil' use a high smoke point oil. dont use olive oil, it will burn the gasket.
just use p.jelly. it also useful for ass play but has been link to cancers.. but what isnt these days.
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Re: Longer PC times result in melted gasket... now what? [Re: mushboy]
#24275624 - 04/27/17 10:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn, okay. I've got plenty of vasoline.
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