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Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question
    #24272893 - 04/26/17 10:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

So I watched an amazing series of videos online, it was brilliant a lot of little things that are easier shown than written about, and it was mentioned that if you had an infected jar to boil for an hour and dump it THEN stick in the oven at 350 for an hour.

My question is, the self healing ports of the jar would melt and go up in smoke, right?


I tried searching and read over 100 threads on people baking their substrates, pretty funny.

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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Newjack]
    #24272905 - 04/26/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Wow

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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24272970 - 04/26/17 11:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see the point to sterilizing empty jars...

I've heard a lot of people hardly clean their jars, I rinse them out with warm water. They are going to get sterilized when you put new grain in them anyways.


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Sagereishii]
    #24272973 - 04/26/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid: but op is talking about steriling the jar with the mess still in before you open the lid.
Please not another do you ..... your jars :facepalm:


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Sagereishii]
    #24272979 - 04/26/17 11:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't see the point to sterilizing empty jars...

I've heard a lot of people hardly clean their jars, I rinse them out with warm water. They are going to get sterilized when you put new grain in them anyways.




Well I watched a video by Roger Rabit and the point was made after an infection to destroy it by boiling it, dumping it and then baking it. I'm not one to argue I'm just not sure the melting point of the port.

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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24272984 - 04/26/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Please not another do you ..... your jars :facepalm:



Well it's not, it's about lids, and actually more specifically the melting point of ports....by thanks for the input


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Newjack]
    #24272990 - 04/26/17 11:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Id imagine it would fuck them up if not immediately then very quickly.


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24272995 - 04/26/17 11:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

No, I boiled jar per Roger Rabitt video, I dumped contents per video and I am now putting in oven per video

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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Newjack]
    #24273019 - 04/26/17 11:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Ok


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24273026 - 04/26/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Apparently then his videos contradict his advice..

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u need to bleach contaminated containers to make sure u kill the contam, otherwise it can survive in rare cases. Bleach, then soap and water, then alc. Also, anytime that you do anything in open air or where a contam could get in, lysol the wholeeee area and the entryways, and the walls, and the air above head level. Also make sure you are pressure cooking correctly and all of that good stuff.




This is bad advice.  Simply wash out containers with soap and water and re-use.  They get sterilized during the next round.

To the OP, soaking and simmering wild bird seed won't cut it.  You have to sterilize it.
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Guys, mold spores are killed at any temperature over about 130F, and also by soap and water.  The dishwasher is fine, or you can just wash them in the sink with your dishes.  The jars and substrate will get sterilized together on the next cycle.  This hobby has enough hoops to jump through without making extra work for no extra return.

I'd toss the bad batch of LC.
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I had a few trich jars. I dumped them outside then filled the jars w/ bleach. Few days later I hosed them out (they were still outside)
Then I PC'd them for an hr and a half.
After a few dishwasher cycles....





Completely unnecessary.

Once the jars are empty, simply wash with soap and water before re-loading.



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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24273027 - 04/26/17 11:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

:whattefuck2:

Why would you boil a tam jar? If RR did do that, he's ...wrong? Gasp!!

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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mushboy]
    #24273031 - 04/26/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Lol no RR these days would never recommend that..


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: Mad Season]
    #24273044 - 04/26/17 11:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hence my earlier face palm.he wants to know what will happen to a lid ship in the oven. Itll get fucked.


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Re: Oven, Just Jars NOT substrate, Sterilization Question [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #24273054 - 04/26/17 11:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Gotta tame that tam bro.

Baking contaminated jars?? New shit here everyday:thumbdown:

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