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HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated?
    #24272874 - 04/26/17 10:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I was just about to pour in this quart sized rye grain jar to my first ever bulk grow attempt. I only have 2.5 colonized jars to put in it, so I assume I can't afford to not put one of them in. However, when I was giving this one a sniff just before I dumped it in, it seemed just slightly off odor, reminiscent of blue cheese. My nose is by NO means the greatest though so I would like some input from the shroomery as to whether these grains are bruised or contaminated:


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24272877 - 04/26/17 10:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Some details please. Did you just shake those jars? Looks like it. What size tub? What size jars?


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24272879 - 04/26/17 10:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Is there another option? I see Nothing

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24272886 - 04/26/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Also,some specifics on how the jars were prepped....


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24272909 - 04/26/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see any myc, so if it had been growing something, it's not mushroom, especially with that smell

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24272926 - 04/26/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't see any myc, so if it had been growing something, it's not mushroom, especially with that smell




:whathesaid:

Yeah "bluecheesy" smell is definitely not a good sign. Should smell like fresh mushrooms....


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24272930 - 04/26/17 11:12 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

The tub is a 44 QT sterillite weatherproof plastic tub. I used roughly one brick of coir (though it's hard to tell because I got it in bag form and had to weight it out), about 2ish quarts of verm, and maybe a half pint or so of gypsum. As of now I have one and a half jars already mixed in and it looks good but I'm certainly no expert. The jars were shaken just minutes ago. They were all inocced from the same master jar, in a near air-tight glove box and left to colonize for 9 days. As for grain tek, I followed standard procedures to the tee as I did with the master jar. As for other options, I currently have three more jars colonizing at the moment but they were just inocced about two or three days ago. Could I possibly let this tub sit with the one and a half jars it has now, and simply add another jar or two of grains when they're ready?

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24272942 - 04/26/17 11:15 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Do u have a pic of the jar before you opened or shook it?

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24272943 - 04/26/17 11:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I should have specified the jar was shaken just moments before this image was taken

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24272951 - 04/26/17 11:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Sadly, I don't think I do. But I do have an image of one of the other jars that it looked indistinguishable from:



That was actually the master jar if I remember correctly

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24272969 - 04/26/17 11:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well, even if you use 2.5 quarts of spawn, if they are indeed usable, the spawn ratio sounds pretty low for a 44 qt tub. I'm thinking 4 jars for a tub that size. Low spawn ratio will take more time to colonize and allow more time for contamination to take hold.

You are this far in, I say go ahead and learn from the experience, and plan out your next project a little better.


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24272971 - 04/26/17 11:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

The left side of that pic, looks like the jar is struggling to colonize....


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24272987 - 04/26/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I am always open to learning experiences. Do you suggest I toss in this third jar or just see if the other ones do anything useful?

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24273011 - 04/26/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'd add the 3rd one for a 44q

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24273684 - 04/26/17 03:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

This is what the tub looks like right now. Barely filled up with any sub. You can see the grains. This is 1.5 jars, does that look to be too low a ratio?

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24273737 - 04/26/17 04:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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This is what the tub looks like right now. Barely filled up with any sub. You can see the grains. This is 1.5 jars, does that look to be too low a ratio?




How deep is your sub? That size tub could take 4 jars easy. Also, what tek are you following for that tub? I'm not sure what that is.....does not look like a mono tub to me.


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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: CapnZ]
    #24273772 - 04/26/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Only a couple inches I would guess... and I'm trying to follow Bod's unmodified tub tek

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24274041 - 04/26/17 05:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

His calls for 4 or 5q spawn.

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24274060 - 04/26/17 05:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Wow, I thought that was for multiple bricks but I must have read it wrong!

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Re: HELP! Is this grain jar contaminated? [Re: Marty_mcfresh]
    #24274162 - 04/26/17 06:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Get a smaller tub..


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