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Fungi2TripWit
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possible potency loss issue, or tolerance?
#24269664 - 04/24/17 11:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are a ton of posts on here saying dehydrating doesn't cause you to lose much of the actives. On Friday I harvested my equadorians and made tea from 40g wet and had an awesome time. Nice and potent. Before I drank the tea I already had the rest in the dehydrator drying. Minimum 2 hrs from harvest to dehydrator set at 45C (113F). I ran the dehydrator for about 10 hours. They felt dry so I put them in the tupperware and on Monday I made tea from 6 grams for me and a friend. I noticed when cutting they weren't cracker dry. We drank the tea and the friend threw most of it up after 30 minutes but I didn't throw up at all. I had an experience like I only took maybe 1g dried, my friend had a similar experience. I assumed it was because they weren't fully dry so it threw off the dosage. I put my 20g back in the dehydrator over night. The next morning they were definitely cracker dry but only lost 2g. That would have made my dose 2.7g instead of 3g and that isn't that much of a difference. I'm thinking it shouldn't be a potency issue because the mushies never got above 113F. How likely is it that 3 days between dosing gave me a tolerance that made 3g feel like 1g and the friend didn't feel it much because he threw it up after 30 minutes?
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Fungi2TripWit]
#24269670 - 04/24/17 11:52 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Id set your dehydrator to its highest setting a dude on here deep fries his cubes at 350f°..... so 165 wont hurt them ...
was your grow from ms?? That could be the problem as well i know my cousin and her friends were eating 3 to 4 grams a night every nighf and after about the fifth time they said they didnt feel much but 2 weeks later they ate the left overs and tripped balls ....
i dont see why one trip would make your tolerance go up ??
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Boogieman47]
#24269694 - 04/25/17 12:06 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You get a huge tolerance to mushrooms from 1 trip hence why tripping 2 days in a row doesn't really work go a WK without them ur tolerance will be gone again. It always amazes me how fast tolerance builds to shrooms
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Boogieman47]
#24269697 - 04/25/17 12:07 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck a dehumidifier right? I'm bout to get a Harvest right Freeze dryer!
Sure its 3-5k but I believe it is the best for perfect potency retention.
THAT will retain potency. Eh eh?
Edited by Groo (04/25/17 12:08 AM)
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269706 - 04/25/17 12:10 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mine has never changed after two trips in a row but everyone is different .... https://harvestright.com/product/large-freeze-dryer/ ya ill be getting one when i can fork out the dough haha
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Boogieman47]
#24269717 - 04/25/17 12:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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No potency loss from a dehydrator
Tolerance build up to mushies is quite extensive depending on the individual in fact my buddy at John Hopkins told me about a study theyre doing there on this subject and other variables of course
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: spore-ty]
#24269740 - 04/25/17 12:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah. I can eat a tiny cap fresh and then a burned dried dehydrated thing. Such a difference anyone else agree?
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269745 - 04/25/17 12:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Id rather eat fresh but dry dont bother me either tho i bet the freeze dry ones are good
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Boogieman47]
#24269751 - 04/25/17 12:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I bet they just crumble into powder and taste so fresh. Mmmm Barf!
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269752 - 04/25/17 12:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya big difference in taste wet vs dry of that's what you meant
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269756 - 04/25/17 12:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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concerning temperature and potency loss... Steven Casteel has a video on youtube of he and a friend eating fried Panaeolus Cyanescens in Indonesia. I think they were flavored too like potato chips.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: spore-ty]
#24269759 - 04/25/17 12:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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No I meant taste with freezedrying. See how futuristic the concept is? In fact you can dip in water is should come back to life taste and texture mostly.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Boogieman47]
#24269768 - 04/25/17 12:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tolerance builds fast and tapers out mostly over a week. I have tried tripping a few days after on several occasions and it just doesn't work. Tolerance to shrooms and lsd builds and works differently than say with weed. If you want to trip the very next day, you have to take 2-3 times as much to get the same level trip. Tested this about 4or 5 times now.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: spore-ty]
#24269771 - 04/25/17 12:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Boogieman47 said: Id set your dehydrator to its highest setting a dude on here deep fries his cubes at 350f°..... so 165 wont hurt them ...
was your grow from ms?? That could be the problem as well i know my cousin and her friends were eating 3 to 4 grams a night every nighf and after about the fifth time they said they didnt feel much but 2 weeks later they ate the left overs and tripped balls ....
I'm not sure why ms would have anything to do with it, but yes ms isolated on agar.
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spore-ty said: No potency loss from a dehydrator
Tolerance build up to mushies is quite extensive depending on the individual in fact my buddy at John Hopkins told me about a study theyre doing there on this subject and other variables of course
I'm familiar with a lot of the JH studies but haven't seen any data on tolerance. Any links you can provide for that data? I'd love to read it.
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Edited by Fungi2TripWit (04/25/17 12:50 AM)
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24269773 - 04/25/17 12:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would not just go about saying TAKE 2 or 3 times as much as a rule of thumb. That can end up bad for someone. I would experiment carefully.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269777 - 04/25/17 12:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Multi Spore can have the propensity to have mushrooms of Greatly varying sizes, potency, and other things. If you want POtency, and quality it is important to pick a few good isolates/clones and test for potency yield and more.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Fungi2TripWit]
#24269780 - 04/25/17 12:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Multi spore you have tons and tons of strains meaning different genetics you could have one thats super potent and one thats bunk... you didnt isolate ms just cut some of the strains down ...
Haha ya cause i take 7 grams when i trip so id have to take a half to 3/4 of an ounce haha im not ready for that yet
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: Groo]
#24269783 - 04/25/17 12:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have tested this as, if you search, other have. The day after tolerance is through the roof. I did 3.5g eaten one night, ate 8g the next night, from same batch, and had a little less of a trip.
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24269785 - 04/25/17 12:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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My pe clone must just be super potent or my sensitivity to the trip is exceptional i never tripped much on my other clones like i do my pe but ive had body highs on as low as.25 and light visuals on .7 of a gram
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Re: possible potency loss issue, or tolerance? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
#24269786 - 04/25/17 12:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: Tolerance builds fast and tapers out mostly over a week. I have tried tripping a few days after on several occasions and it just doesn't work. Tolerance to shrooms and lsd builds and works differently than say with weed. If you want to trip the very next day, you have to take 2-3 times as much to get the same level trip. Tested this about 4or 5 times now.
This is what I was looking for... thanks man. So most likely I was tolerant and my buddy just barfed most of his dose. I thought 30 minutes was enough to absorb most of the liquid as it only takes about 20-30 minutes to feel the effects of a pill, and that has to dissolve first.
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