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ComebackKid
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The APE Box (Trial In Progress) 1
#24269369 - 04/24/17 08:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The APE Box Trial RunIntroductionBeing a multispore enthusiast and after great success with my first MS APE grow, I have been inspired to find a way to get consistently great results from APE multispore. Introducing: The APE BoxThis is a trial run. The box needs some improvments still and I'm working out the kinks as I go so bear with me.  I'm going to try to emulate my last APE tub with a little inspiration from MudaFuka's bottle tek. I'm hoping that the low headspace, thick top layer, and unbroken colony will give me the conditions I need for consistently great results. I'm going to be making 4 two quart tubs out of PP5 food storage containers.  These things are roughly 4 inches tall, which leaves me pleanty of room to add a 3/4 inch top layer of coir/verm. My goal is to get at least 2 dry oz APE from each tub first flush. Building the BoxI added two 1/8inch holes on either side of the lip to provide gas exchange.  Then I covered both holes with 2 layers of micropore tape.    This is the GE hole. The other hole will hopefully protect the tape from the contents of the box after I inoculate/shake. Preparing the SubstrateFor 4-5 boxes: 2 quarts Whole Oats 4 quarts Timothy Hay 2 cups Brown Rice Flour Way too much BRF. I will most likely remove it from the recipe entirely next timeBasically I'm just aiming for a mixture of half oats and half hay with a boost of BRF for extra nutes   Chop up the hay and mix with the oats in a pot of water.  Bring to a boil and wait for the oats to become plump.  Strain the water out, then dump the hay and oats into a large mixing bowl.  Mix in BRF. This should soak up any excess water left over from the strain.  Load the Boxes leaving 3/4 to 1 inch space above the substrate.   Snap on the lids and PC for 90+ minutes So all of my PP5 containers warped in the PC leaving me with 2 semi functional boxes  Next time I try this I'm going to drill a couple more holes and only PC three boxes at a time. InoculationI inoculated 1 box with 60cc Liquid Culture and 1 box with 1/4 cup Liquid Inoculant   Shook em, labeled, and left to colonize Now we wait Fruiting and CareOnce fully colonized I plan to add a 3/4 inch top layer of 4:1 coir:verm and let the mycelium colonize most of the top layer before introducing to fruiting conditions. I will fruit by shifting the lid and leaving a 1/4 inch gap on either side. Misting twice a day
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: mushboy]
#24269426 - 04/24/17 09:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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What made you decide to use timothy hay?
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AztecDeathWhistle
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Interesting, I'll be following this as I am entering my first foray with PE as we speak.
I've been lurking these forums for a few months before I began posting.
I've seemed to notice a pattern of beautiful MS PE/APE grows. As well of lots lackluster results and blob problems with clones. This is purely anecdotal but it seems like their is a trend of PE/APE doing better as MS.
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What made you decide to use timothy hay?
I was looking up using hay as a bulk sub and apparently it's a big nono due to high nitrogen levels. So I figured the myc would benifit from the higher nitrogen in the hay as apposed to using straw. It's not quite a replacement for coffee grounds but it's something at least... Either way I was only buying the hay for bottles anyway so it couldn't hurt to use it
Aztek Man those blobs from what I hear have a mind of their own but happy to have you on board
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: Crispykoot]
#24270204 - 04/25/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: Kenetic] 1
#24270353 - 04/25/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn - those are some of the best APE trays I've seen!
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ComebackKid
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: mycomattie]
#24270664 - 04/25/17 01:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks dude! Crossing my fingers that I can pull off another one! Seems like everyone's going ape lately, Shomann had some spectacular trays in the pic of the day thread the other day too
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My ape is finally pinning on a few tubs! Super stoked
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: Kenetic] 1
#24270709 - 04/25/17 01:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you have a grow log going?? Link it up! I love when ape knots up. They're like little Styrofoam pellets
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I didnt think about it. Will do
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Quote:
ComebackKid said: Do you have a grow log going?? Link it up!
ya dude.
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Kenetic
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: mushboy]
#24274973 - 04/27/17 03:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: Kenetic]
#24275390 - 04/27/17 09:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You used hay instead of straw??
Was waiting for this
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: van hatton]
#24275450 - 04/27/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah for projects like this where everything is sterilized hay is perfectly fine to use. It's mineral and nitrogen rich and has more nutrients than straw.
Crazy thing is that after a first flush the hay will turn from green to yellow like straw
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van hatton
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didn't noticed you sterilized all of it. Thought u just pasteurized it. So I was waiting for contamination city I really gotta stay off here when I'm at work.
Good stuff cbk
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Tmethyl said:
Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a monotub that wasn't pinning fast enough. The force of the kick rearranged the genetics of the mushrooms, we now call them Penis Envy.
Caps McGee said:
Fun part is figuring out what works best for you
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Quote:
ComebackKid said: Yeah for projects like this where everything is sterilized hay is perfectly fine to use. It's mineral and nitrogen rich and has more nutrients than straw.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? im buying some hay. i love PCin subsrates
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Re: The APE Box Experiment [Re: mushboy]
#24275476 - 04/27/17 10:05 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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