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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24216116 - 04/03/17 06:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see what you're saying now, i understand.
No, its more of a "if it fruits even a little its better than throwing it in the trash" and my friend on her first grow has jungle green in 9 of 35 of her jars. This isn't ideal, this is, how do things work so that i can dispose of it properly, but at the same time, there are tons of threads about planting it outside and being safe to eat. 9 jars (possibly more by time of full colonization) is worth digging a hole for. All i'm sayin.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24216128 - 04/03/17 06:16 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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because they're contaminated so if you try to fruit them indoors you have to remove the filter or the dry verm barrier 
at least outdoors they have a chance of growing, and if they do grow it's not like the green mold is growing on the mushroom itself.
indoors the green mold would be growing on the cake the whole time it made the few mushrooms it was going to make
outdoors is just a slightly better option for contaminated things than the trash can
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24216138 - 04/03/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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ohhhhhh that makes perfect sense, so if you removed whatever filter you use, the green mold spores would spread inside.
But they're already abundant outside so who cares, try your luck see if they fruit. worst case it will fertilize the soil.
But, to you, you still wouldn't eat the fruits that popped up? That's my real question. She has 9 of 35 jars contaminated and if she can safely make an outdoor bed and eat all growth, that'd be better.
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24216146 - 04/03/17 06:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes
every mushroom that grows outdoors is growing on contaminated substrate, as long as the mushroom itself isn't gross or moldy it's fine.
if a moldy cake makes a shroom it's because it had enough health left in it to make a shroom. now if the shroom has a bunch of green mold on it, you'll obviously avoid it.
if you see 2 mushrooms growing outside that both look nice do you really go examine the ground it came from to make sure there's no mold close to it? no.
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24216423 - 04/03/17 08:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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"every mushroom that grows outdoors is growing on contaminated substrate" really drove it in. Awesome point, thanks.
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24216437 - 04/03/17 08:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Indoors is a different ball game

You might find a field of cubes but you wont find a dense canopy of them in nature.
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24220910 - 04/05/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bod,
I'm still unclear on one part of this if you would be so kind :
I see it recommended to sterilize the jar (killing off the bad contams and the good mycellium) before taking them outside, opening, and burying. I see that more often than anything else, and i'm all for that, in fact i'm reading trich mycellium is white or clear, and only when it sporulates is it green like that. So makes perfect sense.
However i did come across a rash of articles that made it sound like they are burying the contaminated jars *without sterilizing*, in hopes that the cubensis mycellium will survive and with some TLC may fruit seasonally.
Am i confusing and blending the two? I know we talked about "outside at least it has a chance to grow" which basically answers my own question, but why am i seeing so many adamant stances of "no, sterilize it, kill everything, then dump it."
Say if someone brought some jars outside, say today is a windy day, very clear wind direction. What if someone were to open those jars while staying up-wind of them, and pouring all the BRF cakes in a hole, mixing it, covering it with manure? Maybe continue to work outside for a while in the wind, when that person went back inside they would be no more unclean than usual, grow area is protected, correct?
Just don't want to overlook anything.
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24222969 - 04/06/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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FINALLY!! After what seems like days i find something like what i'm looking for, searching "burying contaminated substrates" does indeed point out like 1600 results, as one jerk so eloquently put it, however none of them are worth reading. Seriously, half of them aren't finished or lead to stupidity.
So for anyone who has been searching in vain for hours and days on details of a successful outdoor grow using spent contaminated cakes, to you my friend, I gift you this : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13054218/fpart/all/vc/1
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: Humble Newcomer]
#24223036 - 04/06/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Humble Newcomer said: FINALLY!! After what seems like days i find something like what i'm looking for, searching "burying contaminated substrates" does indeed point out like 1600 results, as one jerk so eloquently put it, however none of them are worth reading. Seriously, half of them aren't finished or lead to stupidity.
So for anyone who has been searching in vain for hours and days on details of a successful outdoor grow using spent contaminated cakes, to you my friend, I gift you this : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13054218/fpart/all/vc/1
here's some search tips for next time so you spend your time a lot more effectively
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php go here first of all so you can choose some options.
right away on the left side limit your searches to "mushroom cultivation" that weeds out a lot of shit
on the right side type
ground outdoor contaminate words like that rather than "burying contaminated" since someone has to spell bury burying or buried correctly or even say that word at all. even searching dig or hole might be a good option
if you are looking for a TEK look for main posts, and more than 200 words since if it's worth while of a post to read it probably has more than 200 words.
you can include has images if you want since pictures help
Only one result per thread since why would you want more than one of the same thread in the results if you're looking for a guide.
sometimes I'll do newer than 5 years but for this maybe it doesn't really matter
I did "outdoor contaminated" since if you're interested in outdoor use of contaminated cakes that's the words that will be common among all the threads while words like bury might not be
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?where=body&tosearch=main&how=all&words=outdoor+contaminated&minwords=200&limit=25&forum=f2&showmain=1&image=1&sort=r&way=d
with a few adjustments I dialed results down to only 81 to sift through, and the one you posted is on the first page of my results.
the search engine works beautifully if you take the time to do some critical thinking
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Re: Moe's Tek Outdoor grow Southern California *PICS* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24269346 - 04/24/17 08:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, wow, thats a lot different.
Thanks!
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