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Need a little help identifying whats in these jars.
    #24156140 - 03/12/17 12:42 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure if this is Mycelium. What do you guys think?

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24156174 - 03/12/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

It's bright where I am so hard to see the pictures on my phone but looks like moisture content is too high. I can't see well enough to tell, but high moisture has usually led to bacterial contamination ime. It may just be struggling with co2, but bacteria are likely to flush in those conditions.


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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Sagereishii]
    #24156230 - 03/12/17 01:19 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm... This is my second attempt at the PF-TEK. I had high moisture content in the previous set of jars a month ago however they never successfully produced anything later on due to trichoderma appearing on the cakes when i attempted to put fruit them in the FC. This new batch was inoculated about 5 days ago is there anything obviously wrong with them? I've read that some condensation produced by mycelium isn't terrible. I also forgot to mention the room is covered in black plastic sheets on all the walls and the temperature on my heater is at about 78 degrees with a slight change depending on the time of day.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24157189 - 03/12/17 08:05 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Just make sure your jars are getting free air exchange. The layer of dry vermiculite on top should keep out contaminants. A small closet with an air gap under the door or a bin with a loosely fit lid are fine but anything that seals is best avoided unless there is a significant volume of air inside imo.

Rising co2 levels speed mycelial growth to a point where it quickly declines and stalls out. When mycelium starts looking mushy and dull instead of fibrous and bright white, a stall probably isn't far off.

If the mycelium forms a border and everything outside, and probably some inside, the border begins to brown, bacteria have flushed.


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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Sagereishii]
    #24158908 - 03/13/17 02:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Okay so I loosened the lids on the jars. Just gonnna keep updating every few days on here. I'm also doing this in a small room without closets.
Plan to continue showing new pics every few days if it helps.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24197477 - 03/27/17 04:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

2 days into SGFC and not sure if the cakes are contam'd or just bruised

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24202301 - 03/29/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Bruising.  The cakes are dry AF.  Give em a mist, and trim that foil back some.  Is your SGFC built to spec?

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #24202818 - 03/29/17 02:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I believe it is built to spec. Should I dunk them again to try and give them that moisture they need? I've been misting and fanning like crazy 4-5 times a day. Also might mention that im in the dry area of texas and the chambers RH is 75 when its at its best. Should I run a humidifier in the room for like 15 minutes each hour or something to keep the humidity in the room higher.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24202896 - 03/29/17 03:18 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

A properly built SGFC will perform even in dry conditions.  If you would, take a picture of your setup.  Even with a re-dunk(Not sure if that's a good idea), your cakes will just dry out again because something is not right with your setup.  Running a humidifier in the room would be ok if you can't quite get things dialed in.  Trimming up that foil will help.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #24203890 - 03/29/17 09:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)





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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24204277 - 03/30/17 12:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the pics.  Your SGFC is way light on perlite.  5" is about the standard, so about to the row of holes second from the bottom.  Can't tell from the pics, but I' assuming you have holes on the bottom.  The only other thing I can think of is the area you have the tub in.  The SGFC performs best in an open room.  If it's in a big closet or small space, performance will be hindered.  Keep misting.  I hope this helps.  Let us know how it goes.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #24205067 - 03/30/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Okay I have this in a sort of sealed of room. I cracked a window and will see if it affects humidity or anything. Might also go buy another bag of perlite later today.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24205240 - 03/30/17 12:15 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Buy 2 bags. At least you'll be at the 5 inch minimum.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: bastard4life]
    #24212334 - 04/02/17 01:15 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That is how my cakes look after I dunk them.  I roll mine in verm after dunking as it acts as a moisture reservoir and a casing layer and helps performance.  Do you not roll them in verm after dunking when you birth them?

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Redox]
    #24213067 - 04/02/17 11:59 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

There are 7 cakes in total. When i took these pictures it was before I got them all in. Those 3 in the pictures are the original ones that were done before the others. I had noticed that they seemed very dry when i first had them in the sgfc so i redunked and rolled them when i dunked and rolled the other set a couple days later. So far ive only seen progress in a single cake which had invitro pinning and its been about 3 or 4 days.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24218464 - 04/04/17 04:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Its been 4 or 5 days since I got the cakes into the sgfc after dunking and rolling.And it appears that most of the tops on the cakes are bruising badly they also feel extremely dry. Now ive had the standard 5 inches of perlite in the chamber and ive made sure that it stayed wet. Is it possible that the room is just too dry or something? Ive also had pins grow on 2 out of 7 cakes so far but they are all relatively bruised.


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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24224889 - 04/07/17 07:52 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

if you live in a particularly dry area you can add more perlite and keep it wet by spraying water on it and on the walls of your SGFC
i wouldn't stress the bluing at all, for me it never seemed to stall anything too much.

notice your cake is only pinning on the bottom, and it's also the cake at the center, where humidity is highest.

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Re: Need a little help identifying whats in these jars. [Re: Hessiah]
    #24268646 - 04/24/17 02:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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