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Trey777
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Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes
#24268312 - 04/24/17 11:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Introduction:
I have been growing HUAUTLAs since September of last year, and also i had no prior knowledge of micology or how to grow anything for that matter. Over the last few months i have collected data on yeild rates and potency(reports). Since i have no actual way to grab the total amount of psylociben or psyocin content from the mushies I am pretty much here to just give yeilds and an overview of stuff. So in the following i have a chart that can be placed into a graph ,but currently is not.
BRF cakes: huatala strain.
Growth rate data set: colonization rate NOTE: only the first flush is recorded all others are not recorded, but each fl8sh after was considerably lower than the last. No reason to push for a 4th ever...)
Month 1: - inoculation from syring
Jar A - 28 days - passed- gain: 1.1 dry Jar B - contam fail Jar C - 35 days - passed gain: 2.1 dry Jar D - contam fail ( day 26) Jar E - contam fail ( day 18) Jar F - stall fail (40 days! Never finished)
Month 2: - inoculation from grain Jar A - 30 days - passed - gain: 2.50g dry Jar B - 25 days - passed - gain: 2.25g dry Jar C - 26 days - passed - gain: 2.00g dry Jar D - 25 days - passed - gain: 3.00g dry
Total gain: (9.75)( first flush)
Month 3: - inoculation from grain Jar A - 22 days - gain: 1.75g dry Jar B - 20 days - gain: 2.50g dry Jar C - 25 days - gain: 2.55g dry Jar D - 28 days - gain: 2.86g dry Total gain: (9.66)( first flush)
Month 4: ( increas in jars )
JarA -25 days - gain: 1.5g dry JarB -20 days - gain: 2.9g dry JarC -22 days - gain: 3.5g dry JarD -23 days - gain: 4g dry JarE -26 days - gain: 2.5g fry JarF -30 days - gain: 2.5g dry JarG -21 days - gain: 3g dry JarH -23 days - gain: 2.85g dry Total gain: (22.75)( first flush)
Month 5:
JarA -21 days - gain: 4g dry JarB -20 days - gain: 3.5g dry JarC -22 days - gain: 4.5g dry JarD -21 days - gain: 6.1g dry JarE -18 days - gain: 2.1g dry JarF -23 days - gain: 3.3g dry JarG -21 days - gain: 2.2g dry JarH -23 days - gain: 1.8g dry
Total gain: (27.5)( first flush)
Month 6:
JarA -18 days - gain: 4g dry JarB -19 days - gain: 4.2g dry JarC -17 days - gain: 3.8g dry JarD -24 days - gain: 3.3g dry JarE -21 days - gain: 2.8g dry JarF -30 days - gain: 4.8g dry JarG -21 days - gain: 4.4g dry JarH -20 days - gain: 3.5g dry Total gain: (38.8)( first flush)
Month 7: JarA -21 days - gain: 4.1g dry JarB -20 days - gain: 3.5g dry JarC -18 days - gain: 2.9g dry JarD -17 days - gain: 5.1g dry JarE -20 days - gain: 3.4g dry JarF -26 days - gain: 4.4g dry JarG -21 days - gain: 2.95g dry JarH -21 days - gain: 2.86g dry Total gain: (29.21)( first flush)
Month 8: ( final month)
JarA -19 days - gain: 4.5g dry JarB -19 days - gain: 4.2g dry JarC -22 days - gain: 3.8g dry JarD -22 days - gain: 1.9g dry JarE -19 days - gain: 3.1g dry JarF -21 days - gain: 5g dry JarG -21 days - gain: 3g dry JarH -20 days - gain: 3.3g dry Total gain: (28.8)( first flush)
Some disclamers on this data: all jars are stored in the same temp and conditions ( 65f to 78f)( standard room temps for my house) and exposed to 12 hours of light per day.
As you can see from the data i had many fails with the syring at first so after that i decided to cut peices from the cakes to inoculate other sets. From month 4 to 8 i incresed the number of jars to 8 a month. I only recorded first flushes in detail since i missed a little bit of data for other flushes.
All jars where dunked and rolled: dunk for 12 hours no matter what flush.
Potency report from the 6 ppl who have been testing them: test range (1.5,2.5,3.5,4.5,5.5+)
Tay - Comments: well as far as I am concerned they are powerful even for people who have ate mushies before, visions and minor halucinations are not uncommon with 90% of the testers. ( participated in 1.5,2.5,3.5,4.5,5.5+ trials )
Average dosage recomended by person: anytbing less than 3.5 and you should be well suited for just about anyone. Anything over 5 is over kill to the max. Its nit a waste, but you will need someone to check on you...
Tucci - Comments: strong mind effects noticed at 2.5+ usually creates a stronger body high than a mental high...( participated in 1.5,2.5,3.5, 4.5,5.5+ trials ) Recomendation: less than 4g anything over might be to strong for a novice
Joshua- Comments: strong visuals and strange emotions durring the test. I only took about 2.5 and it was the greatest trip i have had. ( participated in 2 tests. (1.5,2.5 dosage ) Recomendation: anything above 1.5 is good.
Tif tif- Comments: strong strong auditory halucinations and visual artifacts. Participated in 1.5 test. Recomendation: more than 1.5
Old man- Comments: vary strong peak with mild come down, strong halucinations and auditory halucinations. Participated in 1.5 to 3.5 trials.
Chaze- Comments: just wtf. Participated in 2.5,3.5 trial. Recomendation: less than 4.
Overview:
As a beginer having no skills or knowledge and just doing this on a whem one semester... It has turned out to be quite "fruitful". Pun intended.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268319 - 04/24/17 11:39 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
As a beginer having no skills or knowledge and just doing this on a whem one semester... It has turned out to be quite "fruitful". Pun intended.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: mushboy]
#24268322 - 04/24/17 11:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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high five though for growing shrooms. its awesome. the hobby has chnaged many of us.
but those gifs were like made for your post. sorry.
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Trey777
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: mushboy]
#24268324 - 04/24/17 11:43 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hellz yea :)
Didnt think it would be this easy to grow and get reproducable results and this strain is aggressive.
Ill probably stop for the summer and un the fall ill grow again. Its quite a cool litfle hobby ;)
Edited by Trey777 (04/24/17 11:46 AM)
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268330 - 04/24/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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lesson*
its a variety not a strain. a cube is more or less a cube.
its just a different name tag. its not like weed.
every spore syringe has thousands of varieties inside. grow them all
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: mushboy]
#24268332 - 04/24/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yep, thus the huge amounts of fluctuations both in reports and yield of cakes
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Mad Season]
#24268337 - 04/24/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i used to document everything on a note pad like OPs post. its cool info but after awhile it becomes redundant and you focus more on making cleaner inoculate and the results just kinda snowball.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: mushboy]
#24268338 - 04/24/17 11:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Only one set was colonized from a syring the rest where cut from the last set and used to inoculate the new sets. Wouldnt it be a strain if you grow the same one over and over again ??
I have 2 "variants" ig. One pins a bunch and the other grows really fast but doesent pin untill its out of the jar. Idk whats up with that at all fr. They both produce about the same amount as well so i see no big deal wirh that. I have noticed they become more powerful the first batch was weak and not effective. The last set i made were the most powerful ones i have created. Someone is always testing them too so its not like they should be getting stronger. O.o just a weird observation we have all noticed over the months
Edited by Trey777 (04/24/17 11:55 AM)
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268343 - 04/24/17 11:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Trey777
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268348 - 04/24/17 11:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also blame fluctuations on environmental factors more than i would blame the type. I could never keep the temps consistant in the winter and i changed environments twice over the course of the data collection. So for me to get real results i need a real lab. Which i will have next time i do this. Sometime in August ill redo everytbing and take detailed notes and start with a hypothysis.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268351 - 04/24/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Trey777 said: Only one set was colonized from a syring the rest where cut from the last set and used to inoculate the new sets. Wouldnt it be a strain if you grow the same one over and over again ??
Doubt it. People have to do 10+ transfers of myc the size of a grain of rice on agar before they find a true isolate.
You might have limited the amount of genetics down to the thousands, but spores germinate by the millions, and those genetics all mix about with one another.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Mad Season]
#24268375 - 04/24/17 12:12 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Since this was done as a proof that someone with little to no xp, id say that limiting the genics is probably about as far as i could go without serious work. What would you say that i actually have going on inside my jars? And also are you saying that thousands of types/variations of mycelium are in each jar just growing?
Last question does this mean that i have been doing this wrong? Should I be getting better results ? And if so how?
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268385 - 04/24/17 12:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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you have cubensis myc growing in the jars.
yes.
not really. your grew shrooms. now expand into better/more productive results.
read links in my sig. or madseasons sigs.
i find people own sigs to be a great source of learning. and we all basically learned from pf tek.
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Re: Data collection on HUAUTLA's p.cubes [Re: Trey777]
#24268393 - 04/24/17 12:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Trey777 said: Since this was done as a proof that someone with little to no xp, id say that limiting the genics is probably about as far as i could go without serious work. What would you say that i actually have going on inside my jars? And also are you saying that thousands of types/variations of mycelium are in each jar just growing?
Last question does this mean that i have been doing this wrong? Should I be getting better results ? And if so how?
Hey man very few of us go for true isolates. That's a lot of work tbh. Multiple genetics is just fine, and they actually can compliment each other to make up more fruit bodies, while others could clash. That's where cloning a desirable fruitbody comes in.
The thing is that you can never have a guarantee on where it goes when starting with spores, which is half the fun to me.
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