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Qjsands
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Quick question about fruiting chamber
#24266275 - 04/23/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have one single lonley brf cake that has consolidated a week and is being dunked right now. I have my standard shotgun fruiting chamber built to spec, and I also have a 2 liter with a few holes at the bottom and about 2.5 inches of perlite for humidity.
What one would you guys go with? I should probably add that I had to throw everything in my shotgun fruiting chamber away due to that green bastard, so this cake will be the only one in the entire terrarium. I got rid of the perlite and washed it out but am still worried about lingering contams...
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Qjsands
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Qjsands]
#24267964 - 04/24/17 07:08 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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About to roll in verm.. still haven't made my mind up.
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Qjsands]
#24268235 - 04/24/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd use the 2 liter for one single cake. If the trich contamination occurred inside your fruiting chamber the easiest solution is to toss it entirely. If you don't want to toss it, mix 1 part bleach 10 parts water in a spray bottle and spritz the whole thing. Then let air dry. I'd also very very carefully replace any air filters in your home. Trich gets on everything and spreads everywhere... so not sure how careful you can be, but take every necessary precaution.
Those are just things I've read. No first hand experience with it.
A good practice is to have no open window / ceiling fan off / no AC running when inoculating / g2g transferring / prepping mono tub.
I also spray lysol disinfectant in the air about 15 minutes before I use my SAB and/or do any work prepping my mono tub. Another good counter measure is to have a spray bottle with light soapy water to spritz the inside of the walls of your SAB. It creates a surface on the inside of the still air box that minimizes bacteria / contams to bounce around while your doing any work in there.
Good luck, man.
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mushboy
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24268262 - 04/24/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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besides the SAB advice, thats a lot of 'huh?'
you dont throw out a chamber if it had contams. just use soapy water. bleach is unnecessary.
trich is everywhere in nature. go outside pick up dirt. handful of trich. the spores are everywhere no matter what. have clean spawn.
OP, just use a sgfc. make more cakes. fill up the chamber later. people can troubleshoot sgfc issues. no one can troubleshoot soda bottle fc's except other noobs and the advice will be awful.
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: mushboy]
#24268329 - 04/24/17 11:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushboy said: besides the SAB advice, thats a lot of 'huh?'
what about exactly? If the trich appeared on his cakes inside the fruiting chamber, you'd think it came from the surroundings, not his spawn.
If the trich appears during colonization, you'd think it came from his spawn, not his surroundings. so. I figured the advice was good.
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24268333 - 04/24/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Newb.00mer said: you'd think it came from the surroundings, not his spawn.
well.... thats shit storm for another thread but with pf cakes thats half correct.
good advice is good. good advice that is sound is even better.
cleaning out a chamber is fine. bleaching it or tossing it is insane overkill. thats all.
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Mad Season
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24268336 - 04/24/17 11:51 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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If trich germinates on a fully colonized substrate, it's because the mycelium shit the bed. It's weakened somehow, and 99% of the time it's bacteria that inhibits the mycs defence network enough for other molds to germinate.
So in other words it had bacteria in it during colonisation so you need to work on spawn/colonization 
Many people don't even wash out their sgfc lol. My tubs are pretty nasty.. Spores and shit everywhere, and they've had many trich outbreaks lol
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: mushboy]
#24268364 - 04/24/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushboy said: cleaning out a chamber is fine. bleaching it or tossing it is insane overkill. thats all.
I've read ppl completely toss spawn jars that revealed trich, mainly to prevent it from spreading in there grow rooms. But, I reckon that's a different scenario.
Also, if you wash it with soapy water, does it just rinse off? I figured it would just spread through the air, and what not, possibly increasing its presence in the area. I've read a spritz with the diluted bleach water would stop it dead in its tracks, as opposed to rinsing it off in the tub.
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mushboy
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24268370 - 04/24/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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you cant kill 100%.
its better to wash away than kill. thats the point. like soap and water are better than hand sanitizers.
tossing a spawn jar thats nasty is different. ill toss that because i dont want to open that horrid stink of spores that would explode in my face....but its mostly out of laziness.
if you open a window in your home you have introduced millions of mold spores.
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Re: Quick question about fruiting chamber [Re: mushboy]
#24268382 - 04/24/17 12:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Us humans poking our heads in will introduce billions of contaminants.
But we toss moldy shit to keep the spore load down. That doesn't mean a high spore load means you can't grow. It means a low spore load means you can grow with more success using dirty ass substrates.
Saying you need clean spawn/colonization is much easier than actually achieving it. For noobs, having a low spore load will be much more beneficial for them since it's already hard learning to grow without learning about the failures of tons of dirty spawn in a dirty environment.
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