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relsseS
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Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing.
#24264442 - 04/22/17 04:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm sorry for even posting this. I've been reading tons of threads and using the search engine but all these threads seem to be discussing too much condensation, or condensation loss during fruiting, not colonization which is the stage I'm at.
My question is this: I've began colonizing two monotubs two days ago, both identical. Holes covered with microspore tape, lid on tight but GE is still provided, rye and coir/verm sub. Last time I made a monotub, same conditions, during colonization there was obvious condensation buildup, walls were dripping wet and foggy.
These new tubs started out that way, but a mere two days later, the condensation is GONE. The walls are bone dry, not a drop of water. It's only been two days, could my substrate have dried out that quickly? It is showing signs of myc growth, having only been two days this is normal, but I feel that by the time it's ready to fruit, it will be dried out already.
Should I open a hole and do a quick misting? I know I shouldn't disturb the tub but I feel as though it's already bound for failure.
Also, I have a humidity meter that I was going to use during fruiting, should I crack the lid for a second and stick it in? It sticks to the wall and I'd be able to read it without disturbing the tub a second time.
Any advice? I need to save this tub from drying out, I worked so damn hard and had so many failed jars, I can't handle sitting here watching my hard work dry out.
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: relsseS] 1
#24264461 - 04/22/17 04:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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>>>>Holes covered with microspore tape<<<< When is colonization is better tape the holes with regular tape to help the CO2 buildup...GE is provided by the lid that doesen seal perfectly... mabe could be this...
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: funga]
#24264551 - 04/22/17 05:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's the thing that's confusing me (I should have mentioned this in the original post, sorry) is that one of my tubs has NO holes in it at all, simply GE through the lid. I was going to transfer the sub (it's in a tray) into a monotub with holes after colonization. And this one is also the same way, no condensation after two days.
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: relsseS] 2
#24264661 - 04/22/17 05:59 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ignore the condensation on the walls. It is temperature related and will vary throughout the day. You can have a well dialed in tub with dry walls.
The surface of the substrate... That's the condensation that matters. If it does get dry, mist, and dial it in until you keep a healthy layer of tiny water droplets
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: mushpunx]
#24264920 - 04/22/17 07:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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condensation doesnt matter. Humidity does. Mist the walls, not the top of the substrate. dunk if need be but be careful not to break the substrate to much. mushpunx is right surface moisture is what matters.
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: Cracked out]
#24264940 - 04/22/17 08:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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what they said
condensation on the walls is totally unrelated to to what we are doing, you can ignore it
what you need to worry about is the surface of your substrate, where the more evaporation the better. you dont want pooling, but evaporation, to create the ideal microclimate on that surface
if youre following bods tek you should be fine to leave it in the original tub
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24265140 - 04/22/17 09:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just saw a really good example of this too. I spawned 3 new tubs today and when I brought them upstairs they were dripping with condensation , next time I came up, bone dry. Now that its night and the temps changed, bone dry again.
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: mushpunx]
#24267822 - 04/24/17 04:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks very much for the feedback guys. So far they're still holding up. I know the humidity is the important part and not the condensation, I just saw my tubs go from rainforest to desert overnight and really freaked out as that has never happened before. Well, last time I had a monotub it was the middle of summer, no wonder why.
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: relsseS]
#24269838 - 04/25/17 01:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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What strain is that in your sig? THEY LOOK AWESOME!
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: Voodoojuju]
#24269904 - 04/25/17 02:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like aa+
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: Voodoojuju]
#24272306 - 04/26/17 05:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Voodoojuju said: What strain is that in your sig? THEY LOOK AWESOME!
I don't remember, honestly; it was my first grow, I got a variety pack of 10 different "strains" and that was the only one that survived contamination. The big shroom was 7.3g dry, and it was the first mushroom to ever sprout. If it wasn't a noob experiment, I'd have tried cloning it.
My monotubs are continuing colonization!
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Re: Monotubs lost all condensation while colonizing. [Re: Cracked out] 1
#24272365 - 04/26/17 06:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cracked out said: condensation doesnt matter. Humidity does. Mist the walls, not the top of the substrate. dunk if need be but be careful not to break the substrate to much. mushpunx is right surface moisture is what matters.
No, don't mist the walls. It will just go down the sides and pool on the sides and create side pins.
DONT MIST THE WALLS NOOOOOoooo000
You aren't growing Walls man
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