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mushboy
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24263642 - 04/22/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i thought the same way bro.
then i learned agar. i dont know what i was doing before.. somehow i threw some shit together and grew shrooms. now im drowning in dry mushrooms. ive never seen so much in person at once. in my hand.
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HeavyMetal
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
#24263648 - 04/22/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll check this out guys. Thanks for the info.
I started in 08... Got 'good' by 2011-2013..fell off for a few years and was just going back to what i knew.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24263653 - 04/22/17 09:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i started in 04.. got good in 06-07.. started up in aug. agar has made me miles beyond what i labeled as 'good'
same thing bro.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
#24263665 - 04/22/17 09:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quick question. I haven't read through it all yet... So forgive me.
Basic idea is you get agar ready.
Then noc up with Ms or clone?
Then once agar colonized you just use a flamed exaco knife or something and slice a chunk and pop into your bags? (in a still air box)
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24263669 - 04/22/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you are using bags in a SAB it's probably easier to make a clean LC with a clean agar wedge. Then inoculate through the bag. That's why I do. Here is an easy way to make clean LC.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23740857
Or you could start grain masters to inoculate the bags. It's harder to G2G a bag in a SAB but I find using smaller masters to be easier in the SAB. Pint grain masters are nice and colonize fast from a wedge. Just a wedge to a master. If you use my mini rounds here is an easy way to use them to max inoculation potential.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22601023
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24263676 - 04/22/17 09:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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basically yes.
but you would want to cut or 'transfer' a small piece about 3 or 4 times.
so you got a plate it germs on

grow that a few days and take 3 cuts from healthy looking growth

do that with each of the 3 pieces you took from the germination plate.

once you have some really nice looking cultures, you drop the whole thing into a quart jar(or bag) colonize that jar/bag and either spawn with that jar, or expand(g2g) that one CLEAN master jar into 6-8 other jars that were only half loaded(you need room for the grains you pour in) and you grow those and go to town.

multiply that by say 300 quart jars and you will be losing your mind with mushrooms. in a good way
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HeavyMetal
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
#24263682 - 04/22/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great guys, this is good stuff and I understand it. Will definitely be looking to get introduced and try it out.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24263685 - 04/22/17 09:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24263691 - 04/22/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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start with pastys easy agar. its in his links. its a game changer. then move on to pouring and the 'intimidation' factor.
if you can make jello you can handle agar.

heavy metal dude. up the irons.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24263692 - 04/22/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Yeah that sounds kinda low. Here is what I think a good tub looks like.
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Looking stable. It's about time to spread some spores.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: hamloaf]
#24263694 - 04/22/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
#24263722 - 04/22/17 10:15 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Getting there. 6th gen is pinning now. If the 7th comes out good spores from that will be distributed.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24263732 - 04/22/17 10:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
#24263741 - 04/22/17 10:31 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just checking this thread today to find that you guys made OP see the light, awesome! Yesterday I thought the force was really strong with this one to even bother but glad I was wrong!
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HeavyMetal
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Josex]
#24263960 - 04/22/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Josex said: Just checking this thread today to find that you guys made OP see the light, awesome! Yesterday I thought the force was really strong with this one to even bother but glad I was wrong!
Hey an old dog can learn new tricks. I'm not opposed to better technique, it just needs to be presented in a better way than it was at first. I needed it spelled out a little to help me understand why what I was doing wasn't as successful as I believed it to be.
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Edited by HeavyMetal (04/22/17 12:22 PM)
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24264008 - 04/22/17 12:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to explain the whys and hows best I could but it tires me to the extreme nowadays unless I can see clearly the recipient will listen... I didn't see clearly this time, so guilty
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24264143 - 04/22/17 01:34 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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HeavyMetal said:
Hey an old dog can learn new tricks. I'm not opposed to better technique, it just needs to be presented in a better way than it was at first. I needed it spelled out a little to help me understand why what I was doing wasn't as successful as I believed it to be.
Well that's good.. because being "opposed to better technique" would be one of the most hardheaded attitudes I've ever encountered 
Glad pasty finally broke through...
Maybe do some research before you start calling everyone who volunteers to help you "condescending"
You'll have a lot more luck learning cultivation principles than criticizing the tone of helpful strangers just because you don't like what they have to say
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24264165 - 04/22/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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c10h12n2o said:
Maybe do some research before you start calling everyone who volunteers to help you "condescending"
You'll have a lot more luck learning cultivation principles than criticizing the tone of helpful strangers just because you don't like what they have to say 
Some of that sounded condescending though, assuming I wasn't listening and just calling what I was doing stupid and to just do research without explaining the why's and how's.
Look - I'm not trying to get into a flame war here, but let's all just agree things come off on the internet misinterpreted sometimes and this time it worked out good. Let's not stir the pot by adding needless commentary to it.
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
#24264217 - 04/22/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many of us are just here to learn and discuss mushroom culture
Don't be surprised if we are turned off and annoyed by your desire to call people "condescending" and comment on the personalities and word choice of the people trying to help you
Knowing, as you said, that words on the Internet or easily misinterpreted, why would you then go on to tell us all about the way cultivation advice makes you "feel" and how you think it "sounded"? No one cares,and it is way off topic
If that's the approach you took with your teachers in school I doubt you did very well
You will get way further here reading, learning,and discussing mush cult than trying to be Dr. Phil on random shroomy strangers trying to help you out
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HeavyMetal
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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24264510 - 04/22/17 04:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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When some of it very clearly comes off condescending, I call it out. We were able to move past the misunderstanding and get down to productive business.
Let's not make more of an issue with you coming in stirring up should of and could've's late to the convo at this point when it's moot.
Your observation is appreciated and I will take into consideration, but let's not be dicks over, at this point, old hogwash. Especially in assumptions about how I did in school? Just not necessary bro.
Edited by HeavyMetal (04/22/17 06:43 PM)
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