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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal] * 1
    #24263580 - 04/22/17 08:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

People really are just trying to help. Popcorn can work but the yield is lower because it's far less nutrition for the fungi. GLC can work but it's a contam vector and latent bacteria drops your yield regardless of whether it molds out. You might think you are kicking ass but maybe you are not.

What is your yield first flush per quart of spawn used? If the answer is less than 35 dry grams per quart of spawn, first flush, then you have a lot of room for improvement. If you are getting that then why would you even make this thread? Seems pointless. Says he wants experienced eyes to critique him, argues he is doing it right with everyone. Sounds like he wanted experienced people to just tell him he is awesome.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
    #24263583 - 04/22/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Brf Invitro was all I needed to know. 

I don't know what the downfall of GLC into grain is.  I seriously have great results with grain... Rye or popcorn, GLC, spawned to coir, poo, verm tubs. 

Why is GLC so shit on now apparently?


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263586 - 04/22/17 08:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Generally aim for 2-3 oz dried per tub, per flush.


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263587 - 04/22/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Because GLC will always have bacteria in it. Can't be avoided. Now lots of times you won't have an issue, the bacteria is in small amounts and won't cause a mold break out too many times. But tht small amount of bacteria does push down the yields. It is a mold vector occasionally.

Getting clean inoculate is easy. So people chose to use one that doesn't come with bacteria.

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    #24263588 - 04/22/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Generally aim for 2-3 oz dried per tub, per flush.




How many quarts of spawn?

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263589 - 04/22/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

can you post pics of these fab results bruh?

in your gallery i see some decent fruit bodies but your trays look awful. are they current?

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24263591 - 04/22/17 08:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I see, thanks for the informative response pasty.


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
    #24263597 - 04/22/17 08:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that sounds kinda low. Here is what I think a good tub looks like.


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263603 - 04/22/17 08:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

no one is trying to make you feel bad either. its just that we have seen you path and where it goes.
ive had shit results too. i dropped the bullshit. PAID ATTENTION to all input and critique and now
i have more mushrooms than i can store in my house. its that BAD

heres some shitty results of mine.



these are my medals. for fallen comrades. i respect my failures now. at the time i grew those i thought i was doing ok.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263608 - 04/22/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

No. I don't take pics of my grows very often.  There's a few in my account from my earlier days in 08.

Most recent I have (took around a two year hiatus) is this one, but it just shows end result of a 4 tub grow.

https://imgur.com/gallery/J0IhL


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263611 - 04/22/17 09:05 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

take a pic right now?

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
    #24263613 - 04/22/17 09:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Nothing is growing right now lol.  Like my first post stated, I'm starting back up. 

At the moment I just have some fully colonized popcorn. One GT, an Ecuador, a Mazaptec, and a Koh Samui. 

I'm getting ready to get GLC out of them....  Then begin the project. 

I can take a picture of the jars and empty Greenhouse if you want, lol. But there's nothing growing atm.

I'd be happy to continue to update this thread though if you're interested in seeing progression/grow?


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: mushboy]
    #24263620 - 04/22/17 09:13 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not clicking an off site link but at the end of the day your 4 tub grow either produced 1000 grams dry first flush or it didn't. Up to you if you are satisfied with your results. Personally I want maximum return so if that means using certain methods or a better culture etc, then I am going to do what's needed to ensure I'm getting that.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263626 - 04/22/17 09:18 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Pocorn sucks dick. Use white wheat.
LCs suck dick.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24263627 - 04/22/17 09:18 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Complete 4 tub was about 330 dried. After 2 flush.

You're telling me 1000 dried is possible in 1 flush (4 tubs)? 

Cus if so I need some learning.


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263630 - 04/22/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Complete 4 tub was about 330 dried. After 2 flush.

You're telling me 1000 dried is possible in 1 flush (4 tubs)? 

Cus if so I need some learning.




That's exactly what I'm telling you. So you can do things differently and get good results. Or you can argue and continue to get bad results. Up to you.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24263634 - 04/22/17 09:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well, say you are me... At the outset right now.

You've got 4 different strains fully colonized (in popcorn). 

What do you do with it if not GLC?


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    #24263636 - 04/22/17 09:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Honestly do your GLC if you want. Use the popcorn if you want. Like I said they often still produce, just not as well. But start preparing to do things properly. Get some agar going, take some clones, source some nice cheap feed grade wheat or rye, 20 buck per 100 lbs is a good price. You won't get to killer results overnight. But you can start working towards them now.

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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #24263638 - 04/22/17 09:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Alright.  I'll go ahead with the current plan and while that's doing its stuff I'll do some research and switch it up as I go along.

Thanks for the input.  I've just always thought agar seemed daunting and I seriously thought a pound dry for 4 tubs (3 flushes) was doing pretty good.  Apparently I'm way off.


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Re: Game plan for continuous grow. Experienced eyes encouraged to critique. [Re: HeavyMetal]
    #24263640 - 04/22/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Agar is fucking easy. Here is how I make agar. Simple as hell.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976

10 years ago your results would have been considered okay. But the bar has been raised in the last 5 years and we have found easier ways to do things. We know a lot more about the organisim now. Take advantage of that.

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