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My first incubation :)
    #24255218 - 04/18/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I inoculated these cakes on April 7th-April 10th. Mycelium appeared on 2 cakes 6 days after noccing them up. Now I'm waiting on two to germinate.

How does this mycelium look? :grin:

(spores are escondido in the front and texas pe6 in the back)




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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack] * 1
    #24255252 - 04/18/17 07:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hopefully you meant inoculation not incubation in your thread title.

If you're incubating stop it. It's only a detriment and allows contams to grow easier along with damaging your mycelium in most cases. You do not need an incubator.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Vesta]
    #24255396 - 04/18/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good! :thumbup:


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushpunx]
    #24255456 - 04/18/17 09:06 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

That first one is so exciting g!
Hell, they all are when you see that first growth. Way to go yo!

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Vesta]
    #24256145 - 04/19/17 03:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Nope totally meant incubation. Technically these are incubating whether I have an incubator or not, which I don't.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24256195 - 04/19/17 04:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yea I've read it referred to as "incubation" as well


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushpunx]
    #24258250 - 04/19/17 08:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty excited about it, thanks :laugh:

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushpunx]
    #24258270 - 04/19/17 08:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I've noticed a lot of people with an attitude on here, not to mention big egos. Not a fan of getting talked down to, not a fan of seeing people make an ass out of themselves cause they wanna play the apathetic know-it-all cool guy card. I don't buy it, and the mushroom doesn't either.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24258409 - 04/19/17 09:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

:racethread:

this is also a forum filled with people who have eaten waay, way to many mushrooms.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24258416 - 04/19/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

and who exactly was talking down to you? i see no one being anything but friendly and helpful...

and then you randomly complain about the helpful people.... and say THEY have egos :lol:

not really a good way to make friends, or learn mushroom culture principles. neither is being coy when someone points out how your title is misleading, and explains that you dont need an incubator

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24258417 - 04/19/17 09:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

People are people, you just gotta sort it out. Most are very helpful, considering  they put a lot of time and effort into a grow and method, then give it away, answer questions, help newbies, sort through untrue bs, and call out FUD. Some people post while tired and work long hrs, others post while "experiemntin" some. Post with no clue and just spread disinfo. You'll figure it out, if you haven't yet.
Look for TCs, and talk to people that seem most like yourself, if that will help.
Ignore or block the others if that works for ya.
And if none of it works for you, then there are other sites too!

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24258420 - 04/19/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

we also care about the end result of your grow waaaay more then anyones feelings.

if someones cries but grows more shrooms? mission accomplished.
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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushboy]
    #24258440 - 04/19/17 09:55 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

exactly :puddingpop:

and for every 1 person who is offended by facts / discussion, there will be dozens of lurkers who read it and learn to grow better but dont have time for any of our bullshit, much less anyones feelings :lol:


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24258893 - 04/20/17 05:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

We could go back and forth but the truth is you have nothing to do with it, and at the same time you're putting me down by saying those things as well. I'm not saying everyone on here is a dick, but I've read some posts that make me think some people are out for themselves. Thanks for the perspective though.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24258894 - 04/20/17 05:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

See, that's a good guy. Nothing negative, good advice. Thanks.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259091 - 04/20/17 07:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I've noticed a lot of people with an attitude on here, not to mention big egos. Not a fan of getting talked down to, not a fan of seeing people make an ass out of themselves cause they wanna play the apathetic know-it-all cool guy card. I don't buy it, and the mushroom doesn't either.



:facepalm:

I've always had a teacher talk down to me, his student. When you post a question, that's exactly what you are. If you don't want to listen to someone because they're talking down to you, you need some thicker skin.

And fwiw colonization is colonization. Although incubation is another way of saying it, to us who see noobs here every day, it's unecessarily heating up your jars.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Mad Season]
    #24259129 - 04/20/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

If old users on here weren't factually honest then a lot more noobs would be ruining perfectly good grows. People don't have egos, they have the correct information. If you're so bothered by another then it is your ego.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: EldarFungi]
    #24259137 - 04/20/17 08:26 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

lets not prove OPs point by flaming his thread. i want to see more pics.
someones first grow shouldnt be us hating on them for their preconceived attitudes about us.

what go you into shrooms? you are using a shutgun fruiting chamber correct? the more you plan, the easier it is.

be proactive rather than reactive and your mushrooms will reward you.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushboy]
    #24259140 - 04/20/17 08:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry it really irks me when someone who posts here with the intention of helping, and the op gets all pissy because they're talking down to him. If that's what a person is like, that's extremely disrespectful, rude, and altogether annoying AF. If you said that in a classroom, "teacher stop it you have a big ego and you are talking down to me," you'd be kicked out..

People on here help others. Just because they're clarifying you aren't doing something wrong, doesn't give op the right to say "oh your ego is so big, don't talk down to me."

Back when I started I got tons of facepalms, and people just outright told me what's wrong, and I thanked them. Because that's what respectful people do.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Mad Season]
    #24259260 - 04/20/17 09:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Alright, alright! I'm a disrespectful noob. Get pissed off like I did.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259262 - 04/20/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Lol it's OK.
So hows your grow today?
Have any pics to throw on here

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mushboy]
    #24259264 - 04/20/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I like you! I'm going to upload some pics. I will be using a SGFC once my jars are fully colonized :smile:

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259296 - 04/20/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Since you guys wanted to check them out, here they are. They've grown a lot in the past couple of days! I've got 12 going, 1 hasn't shown any growth.







The first two photos are Escondido, the last one is Texas PE6.
The little dirty bumps over the mycelium is dry vermiculite. No weird smells or discolorations happening.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259311 - 04/20/17 09:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well good luck. For the record I'm not pissed. Just annoyed you got pissed in the first place at a guy trying to get some clarification.

People on here try to help you grow as many mushrooms as possible. That's love, so if you're going to keep being an ass to people helping this won't be the last you hear about this.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259314 - 04/20/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Try not to open them.
That's some. Good rhizomatic growth on all. Very robust.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259325 - 04/20/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Got some nice ropes in those jars, they look fairly clean lad.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Mad Season]
    #24259347 - 04/20/17 10:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I don't know why I even got mad lol. Thank you man.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259349 - 04/20/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm glad to read that! :laugh: pretty excited.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: ManifoldPrime]
    #24259355 - 04/20/17 10:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Sweet, I haven't had a contaminant yet (knock on wood)

They've grown ridiculously fast, I inoculated most of them on April 8th and 2 of them are almost entirely covered with mycelium. Where do I draw the line in regards of consolidating my jars? Once my jars are completely covered with mycelium on the surface, I wait a week then birth them?

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259367 - 04/20/17 10:23 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

That's right.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259378 - 04/20/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm gonna have a lot of cakes that birth at different times!

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24259383 - 04/20/17 10:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It happens. Usually they all fall within a week or so. Sometimes longer.
For some reason, my later cakes fare better than the early ones. Who knows?

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259443 - 04/20/17 11:10 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

If incubation is a bad idea, why did my grain jars wait to start growing until spring arrived?  I used agar wedges to inoculate these jars a month ago.  Most the jars I am still waiting to colonize.  Temperature in the room is definitely a few degrees higher than when I was doing my best to keep my gas bill low.  The whole oats are 12 days post tiger drop. 








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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: andoro]
    #24259564 - 04/20/17 12:19 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Temp needs to be around 70ish. Too high

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24259596 - 04/20/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It's a matter of causation vs. correlation

Sure they might be a bit warmer but most importantly a significant amount of time has passed since you inoculated them

The increase in temperature does speed things up but the contams benefit from it more than the myc does, so it's a bad idea (unless you are in the middle of winter and can't keep temps around 70)


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24259720 - 04/20/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

My post got cut.
I was going to type the same thing c10 says.
Too high, can have extra variables to contaminate, if contamination vectors are present. Too low temps is slow, and can also allow more time to contaminate.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: Stack]
    #24268754 - 04/24/17 04:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Wow didn't mean for my post to be interpreted that way and turned into a whole discussion lmao.

I've never heard of the colonization period as incubation before so that's my ignorance there. Like mad season said for some reason it's a very common mistake for noobs to incubate their Jars/spawn probably because they think the higher temp will help their mycelium grow faster.

Just trying to help, that why I said "if you are incubating". These forums are almost like writing a letter, you have to say what you mean without knowing all the information before hand, because it takes a while to get a response, I could ask you "are you incubating the jars" or something like that and not get a response for hours or days sometimes.

It's easier to just say what needs to be said regardless, and assume the other person won't get butt hurt.

Just trying to help that's all.

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: mynakedrat] * 1
    #24268776 - 04/24/17 04:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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My post got cut.
I was going to type the same thing c10 says.
Too high, can have extra variables to contaminate, if contamination vectors are present. Too low temps is slow, and can also allow more time to contaminate.



This is only partially correct. 

Lower temps cause metabolic rates in mushroom mycelium to slow, yes, but actually invader spores don't like to germinate in the cooler temp range. 

Invader spores like to germinate in warmer temps such as 80-80F+, as well as in high in CO2 environments.


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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: hamloaf]
    #24268798 - 04/24/17 04:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I think it all looks good OP.  I am starting my firsts (and a new poster here) and have found nearly all of my wisdom has come from this forum. Sure there is some bad juju, but overall, this is the best place to talk together about our common interests...in Shrooms!
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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: McGrimm]
    #24275255 - 04/27/17 08:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

With no incubation, a failed spore syringe inoculation then addition of agar wedge a month later, I finally have a colonized B+ jar with a few pins to boot!



From the label it looks like that jar took a little over 6 weeks to colonize with no incubation with room temps from low 60'2 to mid 60's mostly.  When I checked the jar a few days ago there were still a few untouched rye berries in there.  Today there are a few pins! 

What should I do next?  Wait another week?  I bought some coco coir and have a cooler ready.  I also have 7 jars of whole oats waiting to be inoculated with something.  Is that the correct vernacular for the g2g?  LOL is spawn a verb or a noun?

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Re: My first incubation :) [Re: andoro]
    #24275261 - 04/27/17 08:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Nah man, fruit That beotch.
Spawn is noun and Verb.
That one probably should be put in a mini with some coir, alone.
Or fruit in jar.

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