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Reblackah


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#24253737 - 04/18/17 07:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24253741 - 04/18/17 07:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh, and to add, brown rice has less phytic acid than wheat, I assume rye also has a higher content because it seems closer related to wheat than to brown rice. Brown rice is also known to be a safer grain than rye to tyndalize.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254172 - 04/18/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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uhh i dunno.
ive been soaking wbs for 24hr for a combined couple of years over the last decade. not sure about the hole soaking grains shit.
why are you avoiding grains? celiac? doesnt soaking a grain/nut 'wash' the acid which is a natural preservative?
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: mushboy]
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254212 - 04/18/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i know alllll about celiac. just say away from every grain. even the non gluten based ones.
eat tons of salmon and red meat and shirmp. not all fish/seadfood are the same so sick with those. also lots of yogurt and shit. im sure you know all this. i have personal experience living with celiac people. it fucking blows.
i also know about tooth issues but i wont elaborate further.. other than i brush 6 times a day and i use baking soda.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: mushboy]
#24254243 - 04/18/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254251 - 04/18/17 11:37 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Salmon is infested with heavy metals, shrimp are grown in antibiotics, so no-go as well. Yogurt is restricted to artisan goats yogurt, cow's milk is full of puss and lactose
just eat the fucking stuff. sounds like life is poisonous to you. i wouldnt use grains to grow. it will leach into the mushrooms and give you the shits. id stick with brf cakes.
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mushboy]
#24254329 - 04/18/17 12:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh, great idea, I guess I'll just forget about the lead poisoning I've already got going then...
Yeah, I'm using them anyhow.. And brf cakes...? BROWN RICE FLOUR CAKES?? rice ain't no grain...
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254333 - 04/18/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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and actually, you are quite right on the spot with life being poisonous to me. It's poisonous to you as well, but having a lot of toxins created by spirochetes inside your body means having more difficulty excreting the toxins everyone else is exposed to just as well.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mushboy]
#24254335 - 04/18/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know about phytic acid or whatever but would rye grass seed be adequate for your bulk needs? Doubt it has gluten in it.
Failing that maybe you could do mudafuka bottles with straw/brf/verm/potato flakes/coffee or some shit?
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mynakedrat
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Use Beans. Quinoa? Sorghum? The mushroom ain't gonna have celiac in it anyway, and they're gluten free!
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254342 - 04/18/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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celiac is a disease not an ingredient.
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mynakedrat
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mushboy]
#24254355 - 04/18/17 12:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I made a large celiac and chicken sandwich for lunch A mcCeliac
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254361 - 04/18/17 12:31 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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jesus.. i see how you hit 1k post so quick.

eat a mcCeliac get the mcShits
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mushboy]
#24254369 - 04/18/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol. I actually eat mostly veggies that I cook and PC. We don't eat fast food at my house. Mcshits mcsuck. Is the Op worried abt gluten or the acid In the fruits?
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254379 - 04/18/17 12:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not worried at all really. It's not about the gluten content, nor about the phytic acid. My question is, could it be that the soaking of grains is not beneficial because of endospore germination and subsequent easier killing of contams, but rather the soaking is beneficial to the mycelium because of reduced phytic acid in the grains.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254392 - 04/18/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know how much the myc absorbs physic from grains, or at all. I have heard the reason is to get dormant endos to flourish and then get killed off quick during sterilization. I've only had one bacterial jar, and that was using the worst grain possible, with tons of endos, corn
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254393 - 04/18/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Soaking isn't all that beneficial if you can boil to the best moisture content (which is actually pretty hard to achieve given the shit info on here, 5% bursted is way too much water for grains)
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254406 - 04/18/17 12:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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this thread makes me want to blow my fucking brains out lol
I have a friend who uses natural tooth paste and natural deodorant. he smells like shit and hasn't got laid in months, usually a 1-2 time a year phenomenon. He'll tell you all about fluoride and aluminum too but I guarantee he will die earlier than most of us will even on his fancy diet. He won't be as happy either. I'll stick to my Colgate and get my dick sucked while eating my wife's pussy.
buy a pressure cooker and read it's manual if you have problems with bacteria
as for the original question, I doubt it has much to do with anything. mycelium probably enjoys the phytic acid if I had to make a guess
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GoldenPreacher said: yes, soaking removes the phytic acid. Don't know if it is being converted or leached.
Yes, celiac, but that leaves non-gluten grains, only I have Lyme's disease, and my teeth are being affected. Intake of phytic acid restricts intake of calcium, magnesium and if I'm not mistaken also zinc. Without phytic acid, there's a higher uptake of minerals, and you have a better chance for healthy teeth and bones. Combine that with no carbs and more fats, and your body goes into a ketogenic state, what makes seizures less likely (which I've also had, sadly). Add liver to the diet and you up the amount of fat-soluble vitamins as well. I've also switched to home-made toothpaste. All store-bought ones contain glycerin which inhibits your teeth to remineralize, and most contain fluoride, which is just bad for your body as a whole. It's even bad for your teeth actually. But as long as the aluminum industry doesn't find a better place to dump it, it's going in drinking water supplies and toothpaste, and both doctors and dentists will continue to be thought it is healthy, despite research pointing in a different direction. Money makes the world go round.
most ignorant post of the week goes to
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: Mad Season]
#24254419 - 04/18/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254424 - 04/18/17 12:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I chew it as it boils and soaks, like pasta. It's done when it's done. How do you get 5%? Counting?
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254429 - 04/18/17 12:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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see what you do is count 100 grains and make sure no more than 5 are burst ya see.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254438 - 04/18/17 01:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254477 - 04/18/17 01:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll just say that everyone I've known paranoid about mercury in fish, fluoride, and aluminum. Are all cumulatively put together not even remotely close to scientifically literate
The whole vaccination and autism thing can be trased back to one quack that wasn't even a real scientist, Andrew Wakefield, that happened to get a paper published. And then the illiterate crowd gobbled it up with no critical thinking because it came from a "good source"
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254491 - 04/18/17 01:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, that clearly makes them dead wrong. Catch your drift, you keep brushing with Colgate. Cancer has no known cause, and no cure either. And thimerosal is great stuff, keeps the very much needed vaccines from spoiling. Better go get my kid vaccinated before the "herd immunity" is endangered. Oh, by the way, 9/11 was a terrorist attack, performed by Osama Bin Laden's minions. Great point btw.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254514 - 04/18/17 01:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure if joking.. Or...
Cuz some of that's true! Hahah
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254519 - 04/18/17 01:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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you had me at thimerosal
actually andrew wakefield published data of methyl mercury toxicity and attributed it to the ethyl mercury compound.
in the states it's in very few vaccines and those ones that do contain it contain less than a microgram.
I myself am not qualified enough to make statements about the research, but having looked at it. it's not nearly as alarming as the freak crowd makes it out to be. and that crowd is far less qualified than myself at looking through the data. so yea you're dead fucking wrong.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254531 - 04/18/17 01:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think there is more Mercury in our lakes and fish and clamsthan in a thousand vaccines.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254548 - 04/18/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254552 - 04/18/17 01:37 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
mynakedrat said: Not sure if joking.. Or...
Cuz some of that's true! Hahah
Please tell me you aren't referring to 9/11? Didn't you feel the sarcasm? Guess I have to be more clear in the future.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254555 - 04/18/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fda also says kratom is bad for you, it kills, and needs to be a higher schedule than marijuana.
Fda is bunk as Shit
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254566 - 04/18/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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monsanto is doing more to help the world than any goverment could ever dream to do. Food waste/hunger is probably one of the top 3 problems facing the planet today.
if you can't articulate why glycophosphate has caused a safer food chain by requiring less of the old generation pesticides to be used then you have no business crying. Science has to start somewhere, we're making progress and getting safer. to expect 100% perfection right now is asinine at best, why don't you go develop pesticides then
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: mynakedrat]
#24254568 - 04/18/17 01:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly my point actually. FDA, CDC, WHO, all bullocks.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254585 - 04/18/17 01:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Reblackah


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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254589 - 04/18/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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And on another note, if food waste and hunger is in our top 3, than our environmental crisis is probably at nr 1. Now tell me, do you think spraying poisonous chemicals in the air will help the environment, or ruin it further..? hmm...
Remember when people thought they could solve the "problems" nature had? And remember when they fucked it up even further? Still happening btw.
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: Reblackah]
#24254597 - 04/18/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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tell me more about how you're solving hunger from your keyboard. you're a complete dumbass if you think we can get away with no pesticides and all organic farming in the bloated society that this kind of dumbassary has created.
a lot of organic food uses lots of pesticides, even more than conventional farming because it doesn't work as well
I love the idea of having to use really nasty toxic organic ones like Pyrethroid or the "safer" pyrethrin(more biodegradable so it's safe right? lol) both made from flowers(so it's organic which means safe right?). and then use it in a higher amount because it's not as effective (by the way the EPA considers these natural and organic pesticides to be slightly toxic as well the same slight toxicity they admit to glycophosphate)
the funny thing about organic is that the program is also ran by the government. and most organic food is probably more poisonous
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254634 - 04/18/17 02:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Soaking grains - phytic acid [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254638 - 04/18/17 02:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Glyphosphate (not glycophosphate) kills our internal biota and has been linked with leaky gut syndrome. Which is peritonitis and NO, you don't want that.
Monsanto is not your savior.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/
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