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website123
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Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me?
#24241157 - 04/13/17 06:10 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Best way to extract from cubensis: leave 20g cracking dried cubensis one hour in the presence of 200ml 99%acetic acid, filter, then vacuum pump the mixture at 0.5 atm or lower and heat it respectively (7 psi - 82°C; 6 psi - 75°C; 5 psi - 68°C; 4 psi - 59°C; 3 psi - 48°C; 2 psi - 34°C; 1 psi - 13°C), collecting the acetic acid in an additional flask in an icebath. The result would be a goo with just 10x-20x bigger mass per dose than LSD, theoretically.
The person who kindly test this can make a simple vacuum pump by adapting a bicicle pump with 2 one way air valves and then the boiling equipment by linking a round botton flask with a buchner flask using a hose then another hose on the sidearm with one more valve pointed in a way that air only comes out.
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24242164 - 04/14/17 12:05 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could you draw a diagram or have a picture of a setup that would work, always been interested in extracting psilocybin
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: sbc1]
#24242951 - 04/14/17 08:46 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems like a nice complicated way to make a pile of acidic goop with no scientific principle involved.
Extraction with aqueous methanol rather, will allow you to make a tincture which is fairly potent.
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website123
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Northerner]
#24243440 - 04/14/17 12:21 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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tried uploading a picture but failed. first things first: just adapt your bicicle pump changing its ball stopper valve to 2 one way air valves, as in this video: the setup is pretty simple: just take a round botton flask and plug a stopper with a hose in it, leading the hose to the inside of the second flask, the buchner flask, this flask has to have a ice bath around it, while the first will have a warm water bath (the temperature will depend on how much vacuum you can apply to the setup); finally, the remaining arm on the buchner flask is attached to another hose with one more valve (same type as in the bicicle pump), to mantain the vacuum in the system (wich will have be re-pumped from time to time). the extraction will have minor losts (more vacuum = less degradation) but will be much purer (and safer) than metanolic extractions, and will not need many steps to obtain substantially pure (and low mass) product. the idea here is to extract fast and have a product that is easily carried (maybe in gell caps) and psilocin acetate and psilocybin will not evaporate with acetic acid as there is at least 100°C between those boiling points.
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24243941 - 04/14/17 04:03 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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You need to go straight to base or acid to base... not straight to acid. Psilocybin is no soluble in acetic acid. You will just make stinky goop.
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Northerner]
#24243976 - 04/14/17 04:14 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't have to listen to me though OP... try the experiment for yourself.
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website123
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Northerner]
#24244412 - 04/14/17 06:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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psilocybin is very soluble in acetic acid, as is psilocin, and if I could do it I wouldnt be asking. its pretty simple, isn't there anybody wwith some 20g and time to spare? I (maybe we) would be very thankful!
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24246789 - 04/15/17 03:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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website123 said: psilocybin is very soluble in acetic acid, as is psilocin, and if I could do it I wouldnt be asking.
No one can do it like you outlined, it's not just you. You can't fake science nor recreate a compound to be something it's not.
Click here, I'll help you.
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website123
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Northerner]
#24247145 - 04/15/17 06:43 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Dilute acetic acid is an excellent solvent for this purpose, because both compounds are very soluble in acetic acid (...)" https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/psilocin.extraction.html
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24247305 - 04/15/17 07:46 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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The compounds are soluble in acidic solution, and the reference you posted is an acid to base extraction. Not just melting the mushrooms to goo in pure acid.
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Northerner]
#24247540 - 04/15/17 09:23 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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this should do perfectly, I'll not explain any further. I hope there is somebody willing to do it, if not I will in the future. thanks anyway.
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24247589 - 04/15/17 09:51 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont drink Methanol it will literally make you blind. 190 proof everclear is at the liquor store it works brilliantly for extracting things. The question always lingers around these threads is why you're doing this and what are you trying to accomplish with an extraction?
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website123
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: Love_spirit]
#24251492 - 04/17/17 11:45 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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already answered that (and all that is left)
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website123
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24252185 - 04/17/17 05:33 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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found a more suitable solvent: dimethyl carbonate
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Re: Can anybody test this simple tek for (us) me? [Re: website123]
#24253480 - 04/18/17 03:12 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Straight to solvent now... rather than straight to acid.
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