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Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms
#24252147 - 04/17/17 05:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have been tripping a lot recently , the first I really prepared for and was around 3 grams and was intense and scary and I learned from it. Second I took lower dose to process my first trip and it worked. The last couple I have not been happy with because I did it more recreationally with alcohol. However, I feel more experienced now in tripping. However, I don't want to waste my trips anymore. How long should I wait to have the "heroic trip". Does it matter?
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: moment467]
#24252158 - 04/17/17 05:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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wrong forum.
but you mean, when is the best time to take 5+ grams? -when life is good and it feels good tripping on high levels can be confusing. having it corralate in some fashion to a noticable passage in time can be important. as in certain times of day, tripping during a heavy snow storm/hurricane..ect
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how long should you wait since the last time before you try a hero dose? -if i want to take a big dose ill lay off tripping for at least a month.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy] 1
#24252159 - 04/17/17 05:22 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heroic doses are recreational when you grow them yourself
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24252161 - 04/17/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I got my answer sorry for writing in wrong forum.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#24252163 - 04/17/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol ^
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#24252165 - 04/17/17 05:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Heroic doses are recreational when you grow them yourself
well im a pussy. i cant handle higher doses. i either barf and feel feverish or i pass out.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24252175 - 04/17/17 05:29 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I yawn so much my face hurts I end up trying to just sleep. Like that ever happens lol
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24252225 - 04/17/17 05:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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After my first heroic dose... which was my first trip. I didn't trip again for 2 years.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: etuHad4]
#24252292 - 04/17/17 06:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heroic doses got their appeals too.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: oontribe]
#24252349 - 04/17/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Didn't have a scale for a while, in retrospect those two huge handfuls I ate were easily over a quarter.
Mowed the yard, then layed on the kitchen floor for hours explaining to my wife how I was literally actually dying from heat stroke from mowing the yard.
Never again. You guys can have your heroic doses, I don't want em.
Haven't tripped this year. Don't plan on it. I personally am not a fan.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: etuHad4]
#24252485 - 04/17/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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etuHad4 said: After my first heroic dose... which was my first trip. I didn't trip again for 2 years.
That's quite a time to absorb all that. Was 8t tough? My wife heard shrooms were the devil and tried to convince me to get rid of everything.
Then she got sober..
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24252788 - 04/17/17 08:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thing about mushroom weights is.. Heavy weights do not always = heavy doses.
Still.. Its pretty safe to say 5 grams of cubes its gunna get you fried
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24252963 - 04/17/17 09:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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etuHad4 said: After my first heroic dose... which was my first trip. I didn't trip again for 2 years.
That's quite a time to absorb all that. Was 8t tough? My wife heard shrooms were the devil and tried to convince me to get rid of everything.
Then she got sober..
I have no earth clue how much is was. I didnt realize the power of the mushies my friend gave me. 5 0r 6 grams. maybe. over the course of 3 hours. them OEV CEV, Time frees. It was the best thing I have ever done And do not think I can replicated such a life changing experience.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: etuHad4]
#24253068 - 04/17/17 10:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man, intense.
We drank a ten gram pitcher of tea on Saturday. Was not prepared at all.
When it was all done, I felt amazing! Clear. Headed, ready for the week ahead. I still feel great! All my tiredness is gone, and work is fun, talkative. Pretty neat.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushpunx]
#24253201 - 04/17/17 11:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: Thing about mushroom weights is.. Heavy weights do not always = heavy doses.
Still.. Its pretty safe to say 5 grams of cubes its gunna get you fried
I like to lemon Tek 6g most of the time when I trip...the most I've ate was 9.5 and holy fuck that night I almost blew myself up with fireworks...an artillery shell got stuck half way in the tube and I just stood there and watched...then it blew up and I was like 5ft away...my ears rung for 20+ minutes but it felt like hours
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Leftfield420]
#24253220 - 04/17/17 11:30 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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wtf haha.
i just use 1/2 cup water per 2-4g of shrooms. and some fresh lemon juice. nuke the water/juice drop in shrooms. steep for 15min. chug that shit down, shrooms and all. i want alll dat.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24253276 - 04/17/17 11:50 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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my friend once handed me a 8 gram shroomey said eat it all that was my first i went on the 2 year train as well
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Kingmut]
#24253309 - 04/18/17 12:12 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i actually havent eaten shrooms in years... not since my last "heroic" trip lol...
i made tea for 10-15 people, and no one drank but a few sips. it was so delicious (jasmine tea base) that i ended up finishing it, and then ate the fruits that were steeping in the tea.
at this point i was having the best trip of my life, realized some fundamental shit about the universe that will make me go insane if i think about it too hard... i realized all matter is inseparable from the rest of the universe, in its origin and destination, and that time is an illusion, that we are made up of elements that originated in the breakdown of stars, and that those iron and calcium molecules didnt have any more "free will" then than they do as a part of a living organism, and that free will and time are both illusions we evolved to cope with consciousness and evolutionary pressures
i then walked into my drying room, where i had many, many kilos drying on racks, and i ate handful after handful of fresh cubes, no idea how many but it was many ounces, i ate until i was full
then i went to my room and the fuckin gospel started coming to me. i felt compelled to document these extremely profound thoughts, felt as if they were the most important thing in the universe, and was really ill with my friends in the other room that they werent helping me document these discoveries that were so significant to me at the time. so i covered my walls with sharpie, mainly writing the words "breathe" and "exist" and most of all "THANK YOU"
i then went to my typically filthy college kid bathroom, took a shit on the floor, and sat down and stared at it for 3 hours. thats when the trip started getting shitty... dont do that, terrible idea
so thats when my friend walked into the bathroom with his girlfriend, and discovered my little ritual and my extensive graphiti hahahahahah.... i actually havent heard from either of them since, imagine that
i think i had freaked that girl out once before at a frat party, where i was tripping balls (my sense of humor gets dark as fuck when i trip), and for some reason i thought the subject of canibalism was the funniest shit in the universe, and was getting SUCH a kick out of the way people reacted when i talked about it during beer pong or something, i would laugh my fucking ass off at the terror it invoked in drunk sorrostitutes 
so yeah i think that indecent was a little too much for them... didnt invite them anyway, its what they get for dropping in unannounced lol
so yeah, i havent even felt like tripping for a while since then. i wont trip unless my mind is in a good place, and it hasnt been for a while, family issues and stuff, i worry too much. college was fun though
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24253343 - 04/18/17 12:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Heroic for me is anything over 15 gs. I have yet to beat my 28g ksss lemon tek record
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: PurePleasure]
#24253389 - 04/18/17 01:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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A heroic does is like looking down the barrel of a revolver, knowing your playing Russian roulette. For me, I have to go into it accepting the fact that it is not going to be fun, and is going to be very uncomfortable. Keep in mind I did about 12G once and 7-8g a couple times.
After the last 7G trip I honestly feel it is better to go even bigger. The reason is the come up on the 12g was so fast I was full "loaded" in a short amount of time. The last 7g trip was slow to come up and made me miserable for a good hour and a half. So next time I do one, I am taking enough to blow the fucking door down. The 12g trip has been the only one were shit drastically warped out of shape and the wood grain paneling walls ran wild with rivers of tie died colors. True fear and panic sat in, some how I managed to not fully freak out. I had to keep reminding myself that it would eventually end. This was also like my 4th trip LOL.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: PurePleasure]
#24253459 - 04/18/17 02:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I can lemon Tek 14g's is the day I'll quit tripping for a while...9.5 was pretty intense for me...I think the first harvest of APE I'm gonna lemon Tek an eighth to see where it gets me
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Leftfield420]
#24253510 - 04/18/17 03:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Remember when we used to use the cult forum to discuss cultivation?
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#24253529 - 04/18/17 04:15 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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ooh look who's here 
good to see you around buddy
was just saying the other day that I was beginning to miss your crabby ass 
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TheMadHatter420 said: A heroic does is like looking down the barrel of a revolver, knowing your playing Russian roulette. For me, I have to go into it accepting the fact that it is not going to be fun, and is going to be very uncomfortable. Keep in mind I did about 12G once and 7-8g a couple times.
After the last 7G trip I honestly feel it is better to go even bigger. The reason is the come up on the 12g was so fast I was full "loaded" in a short amount of time. The last 7g trip was slow to come up and made me miserable for a good hour and a half. So next time I do one, I am taking enough to blow the fucking door down. The 12g trip has been the only one were shit drastically warped out of shape and the wood grain paneling walls ran wild with rivers of tie died colors. True fear and panic sat in, some how I managed to not fully freak out. I had to keep reminding myself that it would eventually end. This was also like my 4th trip LOL.
Holy banana balls! That's crazy! I've been tripping since the nineties, and I am just now having string shroom trips. Kudos to you sir, and your large balls
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24253899 - 04/18/17 09:13 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is all about accepting that its going to suck at times, but when your done, life will be slightly better, you will have learned from the shrooms. You got to take so much, that it is impossible to hold back. That was the issue with my last 7g trip. My ego was able to hold on still.
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Ah I see. That's a tough call. And being hesitant sucks
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24253912 - 04/18/17 09:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just did 4g tea of PEU with my wife a week ago. I usually go for a walk go to the store buy some soda etc..
Not this time. Couldn't really see the sidewalks too well. Doors, my carpet and wood table were tough ones too
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#24253918 - 04/18/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol, did it all the look the same? Fucked?
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Inocuole]
#24253920 - 04/18/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Remember when we used to use the cult forum to discuss cultivation?
can you look at my fungus cake and tell me why its blue? and ship me spores?
id rather talk about this dumb shit than that.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24253928 - 04/18/17 09:23 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well if the mods were not sleeping it would have got closed or moved a day ago lol
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mynakedrat]
#24253935 - 04/18/17 09:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The 1st time I did tea, I did 4g. I didn't think tea would really increase it, well that was probably the 2nd hardest I EVER tripped. Senses were fucking confused, good OEV, had to be a solid lvl 4. Shit go deep, and confusing.
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im unemployed(sorta) and im logged into shroomery 24hrs a day. ill mod this bitch.
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Honestly talking about tripping with other growers, is more interesting. We tend to try to analyse what the shrooms do to use. Many others are like, dude I tripped fucking balls off 2g, you ask them what happened and you get the, I don't know I can't remember, I was tripping to hard answer. I call bullshit because I always remember a good deal of my trips, even the peak, hell that part tend to stick with you.
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I would love to have 1 official "the growers psycadelic experience" thread, hidden in here
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24253957 - 04/18/17 09:35 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushboy said: im unemployed(sorta) and im logged into shroomery 24hrs a day. ill mod this bitch.
hey, drug dealing is a tough job don't call us unemployed lol
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banned. first act as mod.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24253967 - 04/18/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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There should be a psychedelic experience forum for cultivation members only. Then it wouldn't be such a retard filled hall of shame.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#24253978 - 04/18/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: There should be a psychedelic experience forum for cultivation members only. Then it wouldn't be such a retard filled hall of shame.
Couldn't agree more...some of the shit I read in the psychedelic experience forum you can tell the poster should have rode the short bus to school..
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: Leftfield420]
#24253987 - 04/18/17 09:51 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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same thing in this forum. then forums would need forums. when does the madness end.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: bodhisatta]
#24254011 - 04/18/17 10:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Speaking of hairball ideas...
I am quite interested in how the care and love you give your grows affects the trip itself. If I could bring myself to do it, I would have 2 simultaneous grows. Abuse the hell out of one: poor medium, under watering, very little light, verbal abuse?, etc... And then have one you tend perfectly and talk to alot with kind words. Other than the weight of the harvest, I wonder if the actual trip itself would be better, smoother, or different in any way?
Dr Masaru Emoto did some work with the structure of water crystals treated in such a fashion. Their structure was totally different from each other.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: 7munkee]
#24254020 - 04/18/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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2nd act as mod.
lock this shit. that belongs in mysticism forum or whatever. these are mushrooms not ayachausca.. but it reflects how you feel on the inside.
if you have a shitty sloppy grow, you will have a shitty sloppy trip and chances are you have a shitty sloppy life.
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Re: Recreational vs heroic trip Shrooms [Re: mushboy]
#24254086 - 04/18/17 10:26 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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mushboy said: if you have a shitty sloppy grow, you will have a shitty sloppy trip and chances are you have a shitty sloppy life.
These are some words of wisdom.
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or for me, i get lost in technical details easily, with everything. so i avoid things like fancy lids, fancy LCs, fancy everything.
just wbs, agar wedge inoculations, g2g transfers and simple fruiting.
when i trip i get lost in the details, so i need to structure shit better. and focus on whats really important. i can interchange 'trip' with any verb. fight, argue, watch a movie, reading a book. i get lost in details 
..and i ramble.
life yo.
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