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Ferather
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24225272 - 04/07/17 10:53 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Conclusion for plant food: Mycelium do not care where nutrients come from. They only care about solubility and the ability to utilize it (digest).
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24225447 - 04/07/17 12:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24225448 - 04/07/17 12:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24227973 - 04/08/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Apparently cyan's are as good as oyster's at producing carbohydrates from carbon sources. I put my spores in pH 8.8 calcium bicarbonate water (Ca(HCO3)2 + H2O).
They ignored the pH, utilized the sources and germinated.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24227983 - 04/08/17 02:40 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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They are being stored at 12°C in a fridge, which helps activation.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24228243 - 04/08/17 04:22 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pocket guide updated, I also added a compilation of found data, Enjoy!
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24228304 - 04/08/17 04:47 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Due to their nature, I've moved my Psilocybe cyanescens log to here.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24246280 - 04/15/17 11:25 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got some wild straw, free, from my local council maintaining a local park and riverside. I bagged 1kg for testing purposes, I will be enriching, but only half as much.
From research straw only needs, + 0.5% nitrates by dry weight.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24246281 - 04/15/17 11:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's about 1 - 1.5 tons just sitting around.
Edited by Ferather (04/15/17 11:40 AM)
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24250495 - 04/16/17 11:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ferather said: Got some wild straw, free, from my local council maintaining a local park and riverside. I bagged 1kg for testing purposes, I will be enriching, but only half as much.
From research straw only needs, + 0.5% nitrates by dry weight.

Great get!
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: TravelAgency]
#24251737 - 04/17/17 02:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just realized I have not explained why the wood peg and egg carton methods work. They limit activity to aerobic capable, cellulose digesting organisms.
Chances of infection, even exposed, are minimal.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24251886 - 04/17/17 03:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Enrichment tek guide, current brands:
Newspaper, shredded -- Nitrates to add per 100g: 0.8g | 200g enrichment tek to 100g paper. Sawdust -- Nitrates to add per 100g: 0.8-1.2g | 250g enrichment tek to 100g sawdust. Straw -- Nitrates to add per 100g: 0.5g | 100g enrichment tek to 100g straw.
Mix the enriched fluids with the remaining, required fluids.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24252043 - 04/17/17 04:28 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here are some of the the new pegs, growing at 12°C.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24257440 - 04/19/17 02:01 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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WL-Tek tested mycelium (various recipe's):
Tarragon oyster  Golden oyster  Summer oyster  King oyster  Pink oyster  Grey oyster 
Black poplar  Nameko 
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Unmodified pine (pet pellets):
Golden oyster  King oyster  Nameko 
Modified pine (pH 8, enriched):
Golden oyster  King oyster  Nameko 
Mixed pine and paper:
Golden oyster  King oyster 
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Unmodified black tea (unspent, raw):
Psilocybe cyanescens 
Tarragon oyster  Summer oyster  King oyster 
Black poplar 
Modified black tea (spent, enriched):
Psilocybe cyanescens 
Tarragon oyster  Summer oyster  King oyster 
Black poplar
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24257516 - 04/19/17 02:42 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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In regards to materials that are inhibitory, there are a few factors to consider.
If the mycelium is unable to digest said materials (genetics) then growth would be sluggish to none. In cases of the opposite, the mycelium could be: better, average, slow but growing well.
When said materials are acidic (99% likely) they will breakdown to a higher pH. As the reaction occurs new materials are produced, some digestible.
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A similar pattern can be seen when growing cubensis, where they digest paper, coir and other cellulose materials. However when grown on either a hardwood or softwood base, the results would be minimal-bad to none.
Since cubensis will yield on enriched paper (clean wood), or coir and grain. It suggests that genetically it cannot handle some plant resins.
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Wood based products are known for being low in nitrates, so much so, that some species developed a carnivorous appetite. Oyster's produce a loop which directly trap nematodes, it digests them as a source of assembled protein (nitrates).
Oyster's and other wood loving fungus will also digest some bacteria and even insects (Cordyceps).
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I believe cubensis to be a primary decomposer, where it's nitrates come from dung. It digests cellulose and other primary sources of carbon, even starch.
Wood lovers tend to not do that well on 100% starch.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24257811 - 04/19/17 05:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you have a link to oysters eating nematodes? That's really interesting.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: TravelAgency]
#24257905 - 04/19/17 05:56 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: Ferather]
#24258137 - 04/19/17 07:38 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holy moly that's incredible!!!!
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: TravelAgency]
#24259448 - 04/20/17 11:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have new paper pellets, the name and packaging has changed. Otherwise the same product, clean and ready to use.
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Re: Ferather's Corner | Experiments, tests and data [Re: TravelAgency]
#24261986 - 04/21/17 02:35 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TravelAgency said: Holy moly that's incredible!!!!
Indeed, mycelium are carbon and nitrate predators. It would eat you if it had the chance.
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