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Just_A_Noob



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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24248616 - 04/16/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've done B+ on cakes, then GT and PE on rye to C/V/G/worm poo. Only once each. MS vendor syringes. PE head and heels above the rest
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Mad Season
hookers and blackjack



Registered: 09/16/12
Posts: 12,666
Loc: Canada
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24248641 - 04/16/17 09:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I love ms. I love how every grow is different, and you can never really know what you'll get.
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blood4blood
Calmer Than You Are


Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 6,029
Loc: The Valley
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24249345 - 04/16/17 03:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never mist my mono's............. ever. Never open them and always get great pinsets and awesome flushes, 5-6 oz dry. Not PE, I havent touched PE in a very long time, but always MS.
And calm there sugar tits, I never claimed you were an idiot.
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c10h12n2o
serial dilutor



Registered: 01/21/15
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24249410 - 04/16/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's not a terribly fair comparison when the other uncased tub didn't perform at all.
I'd be something if they both fruited well then it could be compared. Uncased PE tubs can grow a lot better
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Mad Season said: This looks more like a comparison between proper surface conditions and a dry surface. That uncased surface has no glistening from what I can tell. This is definitely a grow showing what happens when the surface is unideal.
A casing is great because it retains more moisture than just exposed mycelium, but a good grower will be able to easily mist his way through it.
these guys are spot on, took the words from my mouth.
did want to congratulate you on a KILLER PE flush though, awesome picture
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blood4blood said: I never mist my mono's............. ever. Never open them and always get great pinsets and awesome flushes, 5-6 oz dry. Not PE, I havent touched PE in a very long time, but always MS.
And calm there sugar tits, I never claimed you were an idiot.
duuuuude.... calm down and you might learn something.
Mad & Bod were perfectly aware that you dont mist anything, its obvious from the pics, thats why they said what they said about why a casing benefited you so much
sounds like with your particular methods and workflow, not misting or dialing in airflow or anything, a casing is probably ideal for you, because does the job of providing the surface climate for you (which you dont even attempt to do in your uncased grows, by your own admission)
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Edited by c10h12n2o (04/16/17 04:14 PM)
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Mad Season
hookers and blackjack



Registered: 09/16/12
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: c10h12n2o] 1
#24250354 - 04/16/17 10:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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tried to help by telling him his surface is dry, op told me he knows what he's doing, as if I'm too stupid to tell what's up, I call him out on his shit and tell him how to fix it by misting it directly and he gets all pissy, and deletes this thread full of amazing information. Also, completely breaking a rule in this forum.. op just read this thread...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
And please don't pull this kinda shit again
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c10h12n2o
serial dilutor



Registered: 01/21/15
Posts: 3,200
Loc: the abyss
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24250629 - 04/17/17 01:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuckin ay thats weak... lookin at his ratings, he has a history of doing this, and filling the search engines with clickbait threads with all the pics deleted and all the good info referencing the pics
basically makes it so that the thread is useless to anyone reading, pretty selfish
ive always wondered why people do that shit :/
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blood4blood
Calmer Than You Are


Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 6,029
Loc: The Valley
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24250847 - 04/17/17 04:45 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics are back..... I think. I thought deleting it would get rid of everything.
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stareatclouds
star eat clouds?



Registered: 09/29/14
Posts: 10,361
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24251077 - 04/17/17 08:21 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're being incredibly results oriented and your results aren't indicative of anything concrete. You should give both tubs as optimal conditions as possible given each scenario. As Mad pointed out, you haven't.
And as others have pointed out, you're running MS against MS, removing a control in the experiment. And even an isolate wouldn't be the end all be all since even isolates of PE can perform different on a grow-to-grow basis.
I like casing PE because they seem a lot thirstier than other cubes and I like to set and forget. I also fruit as soon as I spawn so I throw a casing on all cubes.
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