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Godseed313
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Fucked up genetics
#24250167 - 04/16/17 09:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This little beast started off as some strange looking conjoined twin and ended up having a fairly nice thick stem, now if one were to clone this fruit would that be a trait worth chasing or something to be avoided? A sign of just fucked up genetics or something a result of some type of contamination?
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mushboy
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see how the stem split? its not genetics
humidity is too high.
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Godseed313
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mushboy]
#24250356 - 04/16/17 10:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ever since it was just a pin it just looked fat and strange to me and didn't turn out looking typical for the fruits that I've been getting off these cakes with this variety, that's what was making me lean towards some genetic anomaly u know
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mushboy
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good point.
this guy grew into a twisted freak.. i thought it was humidity.. 
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mushboy]
#24250371 - 04/16/17 10:37 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sure, clone it if you have the time and resources. See what happens. Why not?
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Godseed313
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mushboy]
#24258089 - 04/19/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I've got the print, got my first setup for agar so I'm gonna get to playin with that bad boy
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c10h12n2o
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it certainly looks different than the rest, clone it for the hell of it
funny that youve noticed stems cracking from high humidity mush, ive seen it mostly happen when ive let things dry out too much , especially in large fruits
it could very well happen in lots of less than ideal conditions. its almost certainly not a genetic thing though, rather its probably environmental and just showed up because of the size
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24258605 - 04/19/17 11:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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what kind of conditions?
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c10h12n2o
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mushboy]
#24258768 - 04/20/17 01:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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well, youve said youve noticed it in high humidity, and ive noticed it in extremely dry conditions. ive mainly noticed it on the largest fruits as well, the ones that suck up huge amounts of water
i was just saying that there could potentially be lots of reasons that happens
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24259431 - 04/20/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've noticed dry fruits cracking as well.
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mynakedrat
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I've had really wet caps Crack, the man grow into Multiple shrooms. Not genetic when that Happens
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Mad Season
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mynakedrat] 1
#24259820 - 04/20/17 02:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Splitting isn't cracking. Splitting can happen in high humidity, but cracking is always from dry conditions. Like lower than 50% rh.
This looks like it's genetics rather than conditions. The fruits all look quite happy.
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mushboy
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: mushboy]
#24259988 - 04/20/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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makes perfect sense, thanks for clarifying mad
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24260092 - 04/20/17 05:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its funny I actually have mushrooms doing both splitting caps and cracking..

The one on the far right has split the cap almost in half, while all the others are cracking on the edges from being so dry, that's a very common reaction to dryness.
Many think it split like that because it grew very rapidly (genetics) and I must agree because I see more split caps in certain clones than I have in others.
As for ops, I know its a split stem and not cap, but looking at the pin and the fruits around it, seriously just looks like a mutation rather than environment.
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Godseed313
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Re: Fucked up genetics [Re: c10h12n2o]
#24267182 - 04/23/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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On mine, the one in the pic, when a young pin it appeared as though it was actually some form of conjoined-twin looking pin the just grew as one large freak, in the beginning you could kinda see how the cap was being formed by what looked like 2 caps overlapped and joined in the middle, and then when mature the stem actually split making it look like those would have been the individual stems for each of the "conjoined" caps. Weird, idk, that's why I like getting other experienced growers assessments of the possible causes/conditions/genetic anomaly etc.


These are just some of the ones I saved that showed some of the anomalies I was seeing. And really I was just leaning towards a genetic anomaly simply because all my grows so far have been this same strain; exact same conditions, and chamber, same light/mist cycle, nothing has changed beside this freak looking fruit amongst all the other very uniform fruits I've gotten from this strain so idk :/
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Edited by Godseed313 (04/23/17 08:39 PM)
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