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OfflineSeiko
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Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate
    #1519731 - 05/04/03 05:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hello,

I have heard that adding calcium to substrate mixture helps pinning and fruitbodies. I wanted to try this and added 500mg oyster shell calcium per 14 oz of rice when I ground my brown rice flour. Germination seems slower than usual, which I understand happens inexplicably sometimes, but I wonder if there are any possible concerns with the calcium.

My fear is that by adding only calcium, I have raised the pH too much. I used 1/4 cup of this flour for each 1/2 pint jar.

Thank you

-Seiko

PS - Would injecting live mycelium into already innoculated jars make any difference? I don't ask in reference to my other problem, I'm just curious.


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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: Seiko]
    #1519760 - 05/04/03 05:42 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PS - Would injecting live mycelium into already innoculated jars make any difference? I don't ask in reference to my other problem, I'm just curious


Works great. Speeds things up.



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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: Magash]
    #1520980 - 05/05/03 02:23 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent. I wasn't sure if it would.

Anyway, does anyone know about need to or tek for balancing pH in calcium enriched substrate? I know lime is used as an additive, but I need to lower this pH, I think.

-Seiko


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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: Seiko]
    #1520993 - 05/05/03 02:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Usually you want to add calcium to the casing layer, not the substrate. The addition of crushed oyster shells act as a buffer to prevent the casing from becoming acidic from the mycelium waste.


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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: si1988crx]
    #1521000 - 05/05/03 02:34 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I know its common to do that with casings.  I've heard it mentioned that there is some advantage to giving even the developing mycelium more calcium. 

I think I recall something about brewer's yeast also.  Perhaps that's the acid I need.

Perhaps I'm totally an idiot and should make some oy-cal-free substrate.  :smile:

-Seiko


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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: Seiko]
    #24249647 - 04/16/17 08:03 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome info.  Thanks y'all.  Especially the mycelium dumping waste,  lol. Awesome!:thumbup:


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Re: Too Much / Incorrect Calcium in verm/brf substrate [Re: Mr.man]
    #24249667 - 04/16/17 08:10 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

13 years ago dude. and the info sucks.


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