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Just_A_Noob



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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24244734 - 04/14/17 08:59 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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what was your spawn to sub ratio
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blood4blood
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24244783 - 04/14/17 09:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24245277 - 04/15/17 01:43 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bakenast
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do you use wholes in your tubs I cant really tell in the pictures
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Count of Sabugosa
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: bakenast]
#24245760 - 04/15/17 06:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh, and was it early casing before full colonization? I read that late casing would be for less aggressive strains. PE is very agressive, but it fruits a bit later. Early, anyway, right?
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bakenast said: do you use wholes in your tubs I cant really tell in the pictures
I spy the holes. They're a bit hard to see because they seem to also have some red tape, like the tape to fix the liner, but you could tell this red is where the holes should be, but on the outside. Corret me if I'm wrong, please.
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blood4blood
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bakenast said: do you use wholes in your tubs I cant really tell in the pictures
yes, there are holes. they are completely covered while the tub is colonizing. when I introduce the tub to fruiting I just move the tape so there is only a fraction of the hole showing (maybe an 1/8th) I've been doing this for awhile now and it works great for me. I haven't messed with poly or tyvek in a very long time. I try and keep it really simple.
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royque1980 said: Oh, and was it early casing before full colonization? I read that late casing would be for less aggressive strains. PE is very agressive, but it fruits a bit later. Early, anyway, right?
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bakenast said: do you use wholes in your tubs I cant really tell in the pictures
I spy the holes. They're a bit hard to see because they seem to also have some red tape, like the tape to fix the liner, but you could tell this red is where the holes should be, but on the outside. Corret me if I'm wrong, please.
I cased this tub after full colonization, then put it back into fruiting until the casing was colonized 30% or so.
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood] 1
#24245920 - 04/15/17 08:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's not a terribly fair comparison when the other uncased tub didn't perform at all.
I'd be something if they both fruited well then it could be compared. Uncased PE tubs can grow a lot better
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Just_A_Noob



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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24245942 - 04/15/17 08:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's not a terribly fair comparison when the other uncased tub didn't perform at all.
I'd be something if they both fruited well then it could be compared. Uncased PE tubs can grow a lot better
Would you agree on casing PE though?
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24245951 - 04/15/17 08:28 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not necessarily
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Mad Season
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#24245969 - 04/15/17 08:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This looks more like a comparison between proper surface conditions and a dry surface. That uncased surface has no glistening from what I can tell. This is definitely a grow showing what happens when the surface is unideal.
A casing is great because it retains more moisture than just exposed mycelium, but a good grower will be able to easily mist his way through it.
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Just_A_Noob



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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24245985 - 04/15/17 08:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Soooooooo many pieces falling into place
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Count of Sabugosa
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24246162 - 04/15/17 10:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, so as far as I understand cubes don't need casing period... but they do help the substrate don't they? Are there counter-indications for casing PEs? And next time I'll give my APEs a rest and go with the original
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24246192 - 04/15/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd like to know what you used for the casing as well. People don't usually use just coir for the casing. OP - whats this casing made of, please?
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Newb.00mer]
#24246220 - 04/15/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well if this is true looks like my PE tub is gonna grow six whole shroomies.
I've never cased.
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blood4blood
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: bodhisatta]
#24246870 - 04/15/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's not a terribly fair comparison when the other uncased tub didn't perform at all.
I'd be something if they both fruited well then it could be compared. Uncased PE tubs can grow a lot better
This makes no sense at all, how would it be a "fair" comparison if both of the tubs did the same? The uncased tub will perform just fine, it'll just take more time. Casing the one PE tub made fruiting happen exponentially faster than the other tub
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blood4blood
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: Mad Season]
#24246875 - 04/15/17 04:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: This looks more like a comparison between proper surface conditions and a dry surface. That uncased surface has no glistening from what I can tell. This is definitely a grow showing what happens when the surface is unideal.
A casing is great because it retains more moisture than just exposed mycelium, but a good grower will be able to easily mist his way through it.
Trust me, the uncased tub will do just fine, it just takes longer
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24246880 - 04/15/17 04:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean that if you got the uncased one to perform on par with the cased one so the comparison makes sense.
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Mad Season
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood] 1
#24248500 - 04/16/17 08:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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blood4blood said:
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Mad Season said: This looks more like a comparison between proper surface conditions and a dry surface. That uncased surface has no glistening from what I can tell. This is definitely a grow showing what happens when the surface is unideal.
A casing is great because it retains more moisture than just exposed mycelium, but a good grower will be able to easily mist his way through it.
Trust me, the uncased tub will do just fine, it just takes longer
You think I'm an idiot and can't identify a lumpy surface with barely any glistening? Its not going to do anything like your cased tub, it has a shit pinset because the conditions are shit. Sorry if you don't like hearing that. It needs a direct misting, until the entire surface is glistening with moisture.
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: blood4blood]
#24248594 - 04/16/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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does the PE yield the same or near to as a standard cube? and I see a lot of mixed reviews of potency, do you think theres any difference? thank
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Mad Season
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Re: PE, cased vs uncased *pics* [Re: bakenast]
#24248604 - 04/16/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It can yield the same, and on average it has better potency. That doesn't mean it won't ever produce duds.
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