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mushroom_therapy
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g2g transfer question
#24238192 - 04/12/17 05:09 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey I have a few PFtek jars, should be fully colonized by tomorrow. Was wondering if I could use them to do a g2g transfer into a substrate made of oats?
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bodhisatta 
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You can't make an oat substrate Oats are spawn And you shouldn't use a cake for g2g unless you didn't use a dry verm barrier and instead used a grain jar lid
Trying to use oats as a substrate will be contamination city
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If I was desperate for spawn I would do it but...
Grains to grains, not cake to grains hahahaha !
Its not the efficient way to grow, but Im curious to know the results....
Why dont you fruit them and then clone on agar ?
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hamloaf
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24238489 - 04/12/17 07:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: You can't make an oat substrate Oats are spawn And you shouldn't use a cake for g2g unless you didn't use a dry verm barrier and instead used a grain jar lid
Trying to use oats as a substrate will be contamination city
Nah, a substrate is ; the surface or material on, or from which an organism lives, grows, or obtains it's nourishment, so the grains we run our spawn on may be referred to as a substrate, also. Spawn is the mycelium grown on a grain substrate.
mushroom_therapy, if your sterile technique is good I think you could successfully noc some grains up with crumbled BRF. I mean, people inoculate grains with blended BRF cakes, so why not? I would encourage you to try this.
Edited by hamloaf (04/12/17 07:25 PM)
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bodhisatta 
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: hamloaf]
#24238619 - 04/12/17 08:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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For the sake of not confusing noobs I go with standard definition when they clearly have mistaken the terms. For people like us of course we know theres exception
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hamloaf
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: bodhisatta]
#24238715 - 04/12/17 08:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Figured that would be your stance, and that's cool. OP used the term substrate correctly though.
It seems we have differing trains of thought over the subjucet.
My opinion is that not using the correct, technical terminology as it's intended, even with the noobest of nooblets actually hinders their developmemt.
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: hamloaf]
#24238742 - 04/12/17 09:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cased grains is the closest grains get to being substrate.
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hamloaf
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: bodhisatta]
#24238773 - 04/12/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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That doesn'the make sense, and smells like dogma considering what the definition of subatrate is (which has been posted above).
In books regarding mushroom cultivation, grains, and agar are referred to as substrates.
Pins, or fruits that appear on agar, or grains due to over incubation are referred to as "fruits appearing on over incubated substrates".
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bodhisatta 
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: hamloaf]
#24238850 - 04/12/17 09:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok ham you win Buddy. Everyone else doesn't really go by cultivation books because most of them suck ass
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mushroom_therapy
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Re: g2g transfer question [Re: bodhisatta]
#24239504 - 04/13/17 07:22 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies guys! I have plenty of spores so that's not really the issue. It's more about me being too lazy to take the time to poke a couple hundred holes for a shotgun FC. I was thinking of using bods unmodified tub tek. And (for lack of proper terms) transferring crumbled up brf cakes into a few quart size jars with either WBS or horse oats. But if bod is saying don't waste my time, I guess I should heed your warning?
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bodhisatta 
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Sounds like a bad idea to me. Fruit your cakes as cakes. Or mix them with coir
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