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Casing Pf-tek Jars
    #24233782 - 04/11/17 02:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Casing PF Tek Cakes



Casing with CVG

1: Prep your CVG. I use Damion's bucket tek here.
Here's how Bod does his ---> Bod's Bucket Tek <---

If you wanna be lazy you can use flat verm.

2: After your CVG mix is ready, rinse off your cakes. Remove any uncolonized portions and the dry verm layer.



3: Fill the jar with some water. I don't fill it all the way full. We don't want to get our CVG wet.



4: Case with CVG



5. And into a monotub they go.

For those being lazy here is a flat verm layer casing. I'm gonna do one with a fresh new verm layer and one with the filter layer left on.

Filter Layer Jar:


1: Pop the lid off



2: Mist with water until there is some water about here in the jar.



This will make your verm layer glistening with moisture :thumbup:



3: And into a monotub they go.

Fresh Verm Layer Jar:

1: rinse off your cakes. Remove any uncolonized portions and the dry verm layer.



2: Fill the jar with some water. I don't fill it all the way full.



3: Case with verm. Level out your verm if needed.



4: Moisten up your verm layer.



5: Into a monotub they go. :thumbup:

Fruiting

4 oz jar cased with CVG



4 oz jelly jar cased in verm




1/2 pint jar cased with CVG




1/2 pint jar cased with verm




4 oz jelly jar - Doing a dunk on this one - Going to case one in verm and the other in straight coir. :thumbup:



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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24233870 - 04/11/17 03:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I will be watching for your results, I think they will be good. People talk about making sure there isn't a puddle under your cake but in my experience with cubes, the wetter the better.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: MysterMyc]
    #24233871 - 04/11/17 03:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't bother dunking these, So they will probably just absorb the water.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24250548 - 04/17/17 02:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Bump. Added in casing with verm. going to do one of these with a fresh verm layer and one with the filter layer.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24257046 - 04/19/17 01:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They are pinning! Gonna post updates tommorrow. they should be more grown.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24257049 - 04/19/17 01:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet mother of shrooms! We have peens


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24257062 - 04/19/17 01:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I should of stated, the CVG ones are pinning already, those I did first. the only issue I see with these is side pins. but hey it might be easier than swiss cheesing a sgfc & cakes


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24257290 - 04/19/17 03:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nice photos.

If casing in the jar then tapered wide mouth jars are no longer essential, they can be difficult or very expensive to get in some places, the dry verm layer can still be rinsed off (if you want) and it can be well rinsed -so a great alternative method. Another thing is you can fully fill a non tapered jar with water and if the cake floats it is still fully submerged, in tapered jars it can break free and float, though you can fill to the brim but it can get messy, you can also introduce spacers at the top to force it to be submerged when the cap is on, though not essential. So you can rinse and not even have to physically handle them.

In case people are wondering in RR's videos (I expect other teks do too) he discards the top layer of verm, saying something like its been exposed, acted as a filter and is cheap to replace. Verm is not particularly cheap where I live and I hate waste, also a bit messy to get rid of and just hassle. The verm in the jars has been heat treated, RR does recommend doing a heat treatment on the verm he rolls in but then does leave it in open air before doing rolling. Many do not bother heat treating verm or doing anything careful after colonisation, and I expect the treated verm that acted as a filter could well be cleaner overall than untreated verm.

The caps on the tapered jars I use are 82mm diameter, not sure of inner diameter of the jar, lets say 70mm. Lets say your injection holes are 2mm diameter. The area of a 70mm jar is 3848 square mm, 4x2mm holes is 12 square mm, so 320 times the area, far less room for contams to drift in. If your jars took 32days to colonise it is like the jar being fully open for 32days/320, i.e. 2.4hours. If you are worried you could tape up 3 holes. People say to remove the foil (with good reason) but it could be left on the jar but raised up on the lid so it does allow GE and not keep the jars moist, but act as an umbrella to contams falling perfectly vertically down -some of course can drift in the sides. You can also put loose plastic bags or other covers on jars if worried about contams settling in holes.

I clicked on this thread thinking it was going to be similar to this old post https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1744572
Some would crumble & case instead, but if there is any doubt of contams you might be better off not crumbling. And some might want to resuse the original jars ASAP.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: blackout]
    #24257374 - 04/19/17 03:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

good stuff to knows. I dont mind using my jars. I currently have plenty. :P


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24261976 - 04/21/17 04:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



fruitin begins


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24262003 - 04/21/17 04:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's fruiting backward! Lol


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24262004 - 04/21/17 04:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

lol. yeah that side pin. XD


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24264182 - 04/22/17 03:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Dayum they grow fast af



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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24266549 - 04/23/17 05:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Neat. one looks like a legit dick



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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24269582 - 04/25/17 12:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Shit is side pin city

1/2 pints cased with cvg




1/2 pint jar cased with verm



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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24269671 - 04/25/17 01:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Legit write up. I think Standard PF tek performs better than that though. With the larger surface area and what not.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Groo]
    #24269743 - 04/25/17 02:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

We shall see. that first jar is already at a gram and a half. It still has more life in her. that was just the first bit. If it gives atleast 5 to 6 grams on the 4 ozers and 10 or so on the half pints I will be a okay with that. they are no where near done. thats for sure. many more flushes to come.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24269747 - 04/25/17 02:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Speculation is not science. I wanna see cataloging weights and logs. Are you a scientist or a not?


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Groo]
    #24269829 - 04/25/17 03:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug: lower maintenance. I'm just growing mushrooms lol.


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Re: Casing PF Tek Cakes [Re: Ziran]
    #24269910 - 04/25/17 04:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not putting it down! Btw.


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