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Offlinepeleg
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spouce
    #2423327 - 03/12/04 12:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Are any of you guys married here that have been enlightened but there wife is not and doesnt care to partake n the good things because they don't understand and society has blinded them with all there civil-lies. i mean it's hard to feel one with someone who when ya go to a festival they really don't know whats going on and r blinded to the truth in a way to where they can't exeperince tru enlightment here on the earth. And it's like when i try to share my views and insights she gets all pissy and we end up fighting and were no beter than when we started..anyonelse been there?


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423414 - 03/12/04 12:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I feel ya bro.

welcome to the wonderful world of the female sex

most of them care more about gucci than they do the nature of the universe. 

my advice: learn to live with it.  The only other option is lonliness and chastity.  Unless you end up with one of those super cool girls that actually does care about this stuff.  But, in my experience, those girls dont tend to be too monogamous :frown:


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423438 - 03/12/04 12:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well when my husband shares his views, I respect them. Usually he has got a very good point on why he belives/thinks that way. We discuss them and then I share my views, but we never fight about them. It is almost always a very interesting and intriguing conversation. I love it when he tells me what he thinks, and belives, there is so many possibilities out there.


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423455 - 03/12/04 12:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

>> Are any of you guys married here that have been enlightened but there wife is not and doesnt care to partake n the good things because they don't understand and society has blinded them with all there civil-lies

An enlightened invididual does not view others in this way.


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Re: spouce [Re: Ped]
    #2423475 - 03/12/04 12:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

im not sure i follow ya there ped? explain further


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423571 - 03/12/04 01:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

quoth lazarus long:
the plural of spouse is spice...
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Re: spouce [Re: gnrm23]
    #2423593 - 03/12/04 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

so i guess i should just grin and bear it huh? and just keep these conversations with likeminded peeps?


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423594 - 03/12/04 01:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

& the males cherish the men's mysteries, secrets hidden deep in the cave, or far in the jungle... rites that reveal the fires of annihilation & transcendance...

the females have their women's mysteries as well, but these tend to be mysteries of the hearth, and of nurturing, of renewal and transformation...



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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423639 - 03/12/04 01:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Someone who is "Enlightened" has come acrossed understanding. Everything makes sense, they instinctively know, well, pretty much everything. They have seen the light and all is known. :wink:

In other news, society hasn't blinded anyone. :grin: Society itself is a structure that we as humans have constructed. It makes sense, society is order and we are pretty advanced. There are a lot of ills going on but it isn't "society's" fault.. we are society.

There may be a lot of people who have a limited understanding of things, like this life, but they aren't to be blamed. All they know is what they have come to know, you know?

So let us say that you've caught sight of something a little more grandiose than your woman, and you want to share that with her. Well, as it sounds, she isn't too receptive to just totally dumping it all on her..... figure out who she is and where she is at in understanding and try to slowly bring her to your vantage point.

Communication and pure intent, don't be too forceful... people can't be forced to open their minds, if they do indeed need them opened... you have to bring them to an understanding and then they will make a choice on their own.

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Re: spouce [Re: gnrm23]
    #2423663 - 03/12/04 01:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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& the males cherish the men's mysteries, secrets hidden deep in the cave, or far in the jungle... rites that reveal the fires of annihilation & transcendance...

the females have their women's mysteries as well, but these tend to be mysteries of the hearth, and of nurturing, of renewal and transformation...





now that is what i call sexism. Assigning roles to the sexes. FUCK THAT.

we're all just people, folks. Just because you're a man doesnt mean you cant be sensitive. Just because you're a woman doesnt mean you cant be a rocket scientist.

the reason women and men behave the way they do is because they buy into society's expectations for them. FUCK THAT.


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Re: spouce [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2423669 - 03/12/04 01:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

it's like this i experinced the power of God and he revealed things in detail...it's very personal and something i hold dear to my heart, it has changed my life for the better.


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423687 - 03/12/04 01:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ya see she was there to witness all of this and held my hand when i needed it and so on. but since it's like weve become worlds apart


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423705 - 03/12/04 01:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ya see she was there to witness all of this and held my hand when i needed it and so on. but since it's like weve become worlds apart, what i mean by civil-lies is the crap the government will feed us becuse they think its fer our best intrest and a mojority of society will run with that..like all the drug propaganda going onand so forth all while taking God out of the pitcure.


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423723 - 03/12/04 01:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I take it she was sitting with you when you had a trip, or something?

She might not really understand what was going on within you... people appear "different" to others who haven't tripped or don't understand what is going on. :lol:

Communication, my friend, communication. Be light and loving as you can.... live by example! :laugh:
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Re: spouce [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2423771 - 03/12/04 01:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah fer sure it was like i was a beakeon of light that the Creator was using to show His power and glory,and she doesnt denie it but doesnt really acept it niether..alot has happened in a short amount of time though some periods have seem like eternity.. it's all good like ya said firework example is the best wittness it's like ya get tapped into the good life ya just wanna share it with everybody i guess is what im trying to say here


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2423796 - 03/12/04 01:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ja, definitely, and there is no one better to share it with than your woman. :wink:

Well, if you are both honest and want to be together and are willing to work some things out, you'll do just fine. :grin:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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Re: spouce [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2423983 - 03/12/04 02:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
now that is what i call sexism. Assigning roles to the sexes. FUCK THAT.



You don't have any children do you? News flash, males and females are different, BY NATURE. He was not assigning roles, rather he was identifying traits, there are differences in the sexes, if there weren't we wouldn't be able to identify people as either men or women, would we? Women tend towards certain behaviors, strengths and weaknesses, and men tend towards certain behaviors, strengths and weaknesses. There is nothing wrong with this, it does not make a man 'superior' to a woman or vice versa, they are JUST different and complementary. It's quite beautiful really.


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2424086 - 03/12/04 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I can relate because I've had girlfriends like this and I have friends who married women like this. Fortunately, my wife isn't like that. It seems to me that you've got to find a way to open up the communication between you two. Does she have any friends that are more open minded? Perhaps you could discuss some of these things with them...


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Re: spouce [Re: peleg]
    #2424182 - 03/12/04 03:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Be reasonable with yourself and her. Don't try to impose your view and try to be fair, if you have any responsibility, then be responsible and show it as a fact of your lifestyle. With time she will understand, if she doesn't, then i don't see any reason for you both to still be married.

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Re: spouce [Re: Evolving]
    #2424196 - 03/12/04 03:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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You don't have any children do you? News flash, males and females are different, BY NATURE. He was not assigning roles, rather he was identifying traits, there are differences in the sexes, if there weren't we wouldn't be able to identify people as either men or women, would we? Women tend towards certain behaviors, strengths and weaknesses, and men tend towards certain behaviors, strengths and weaknesses. There is nothing wrong with this, it does not make a man 'superior' to a woman or vice versa, they are JUST different and complementary. It's quite beautiful really.





Ah, but how many of those differences are intrinsic and how many of them are simply enforced by society? How could one say that girls are inherently nurturing when we give them dolls to play with when they are just little children. How can one say that men are inherently agressive when we give them toy guns and GI Joes to play with at an early age?

I understand that men and women have different hormonal systems that influence the brain, but my belief is that the mind is above that. My hormones tell me to fuck every woman in sight, but my mind can decide not to give an available chick any lovin'.

but the point is, unless we step outside of society, which is damn near impossible sinch we are enmeshed within it, we cannot determine whether or not these roles are just ethereal archetypes that someone in power came up with a long time ago, and which have been happily enforced by people for hundreds of years.

Personally, I think that saying "Men are this way, girls are that way." is sexism. I might make some flippant observations as to how women around me behave every now and then, but I never say that women are inherently one way or another. Thats why so many women call me a misogynist. Because I hold women accoubntable for their actions. I realize that they don't have to be that way.


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