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Twiztedfreek
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Is monotub ready to fruit?
#24220145 - 04/05/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is my first bulk grow and I'm not sure how to know if my substrate is ready to be put into fruiting conditions. @_@ can't exactly find much info online for this particular stage in its life so I figured I'd ask around. I took two pictures of how the tub looks right now let me know your input please
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: amidogen]
#24220176 - 04/05/17 10:25 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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It won't let me post the pictures @_@ I'm trying to post sorry how do i post a picture?
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Upload it to the site and it will give you a link.
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And what i mean is lol the tubs and threads I've been looking at seem to have more mycelium on the sub than i have so I'm not sure if i should let it keep colonizing. It's been almost 10 days now
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I took a quick video my phone doesn't take pictures in a supported file format apparently
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Do you have a top layer of substrate or a casing layer on that? Depending on how thick it was the surface can be the last to fully colonize.
To answer your question you can wait for it to finish or you can put it in fruiting now if you want. I've started (and many other people too) to case my tubs when I spawn and put them into fruiting conditions right away. Does very well this way.
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Well, what was your spawn ratio?
Also it looks like you have polyfill in your holes, during colonization you want duct tape over the holes and then when it's colonized, then you put polyfill in.
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: mushpunx]
#24220219 - 04/05/17 10:43 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I swear this time last year, very few fruited at spawn claiming uneven pinsets, longer pin times, etc.
Seems in the last 6 months everyone does it now. I've never not fruited at spawning.
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: mushpunx]
#24220220 - 04/05/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushpunx said: Do you have a top layer of substrate or a casing layer on that? Depending on how thick it was the surface can be the last to fully colonize.
To answer your question you can wait for it to finish or you can put it in fruiting now if you want. I've started (and many other people too) to case my tubs when I spawn and put them into fruiting conditions right away. Does very well this way.
I really need to try this out. Have you tried this uncased at all?
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I did a thin top layer of sub i didn't wana case since it's my first monotub group. I've only done BRF cakes before and they are easy to know when they are good to fruit. I thought about starting the fruiting cycle before i leave for work. I wanna make sure i don't need to let it sit longer first though
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mushpunx said: Do you have a top layer of substrate or a casing layer on that? Depending on how thick it was the surface can be the last to fully colonize.
To answer your question you can wait for it to finish or you can put it in fruiting now if you want. I've started (and many other people too) to case my tubs when I spawn and put them into fruiting conditions right away. Does very well this way.
I really need to try this out. Have you tried this uncased at all?
Tub in my sig didn't have a thing covering the exposed WBS.
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Twiztedfreek said: I did a thin top layer of sub i didn't wana case since it's my first monotub group. I've only done BRF cakes before and they are easy to know when they are good to fruit. I thought about starting the fruiting cycle before i leave for work. I wanna make sure i don't need to let it sit longer first though
Yea the top layer can take a while to colonize Its up to you. You can let it finish or fruit it, either or.
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mushpunx said: Do you have a top layer of substrate or a casing layer on that? Depending on how thick it was the surface can be the last to fully colonize.
To answer your question you can wait for it to finish or you can put it in fruiting now if you want. I've started (and many other people too) to case my tubs when I spawn and put them into fruiting conditions right away. Does very well this way.
I really need to try this out. Have you tried this uncased at all?
Not yet no. I think a casing layer is a good idea doing it this way tho
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: mushpunx]
#24220433 - 04/05/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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At 10 days though this should be further along I'd think. Right?
I thought it had to do with the holes not being taped but if you guys are fruiting at spawning, how long are those tubs taking to fully colonize?
Could this just be from a low spawn ratio? Op how many jars of spawn and sub did you use? It could even be the substrates water content... What is your substrate mix?
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Question, with a lot of us spawning at fruiting now, you either case when you make your tub, or you dont case at all, right? Because before the standard was to let it sit for a while with holes taped, let it colonize, then case and fruit. People said not to case after fruiting as it can trap contams that are on the surface. However, spawning isn't sterile, and usually won't be. So can I case after the top uncovered grains colonize, in fruiting conditions?
That was tough to get out. Probably tough to read. I get to writing shit sometimes sorry
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: Moabfighter]
#24220533 - 04/05/17 01:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've heard a lot of opinions both ways. I usually case, but a lot of folks get great results with no casing layer.
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: CapnZ]
#24221269 - 04/05/17 06:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea (when I did case) I used to tape up the holes and then case once fully colonized, then when the casing was at 25% or so I would patch and fruit.
Then I started casing at 100% colonization and fruiting right away
Now I spawn, case and fruit right away. I like it best. I think the fresh air deters contams to an extent.
Regardless of how I did it I didn't case after fruiting (or late casing).
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: Moabfighter]
#24221425 - 04/05/17 07:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I got what your saying Moabfighter, and Im wondering the same thing
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Re: Is monotub ready to fruit? [Re: PaulWall]
#24226676 - 04/07/17 10:49 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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update us Twiz, how is it coming along?
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