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 Zanthius
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OK so why exactly should we care about the environment again? You see, you've fallen into a logic of hedonism, you care about the environment because it makes you feel good, and then you die. I destroy the environment because it makes me feel good, then I die. There is no difference if there is nothing sacred about the environment that would mean enjoyment grounded in destroying the environment is wrong.
Ehm... you should care about the environment because you need breathable air, drinkable water and edible food. Those are basic needs.
 
There are also books written about why you should care about biodiversity.
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 Re: The meaning of life  [Re: Zanthius]
#24518862 - 07/30/17 06:15 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Edited by Jaegar (07/30/17 06:18 PM)
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blingbling
what you chicken stew?
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: sudly]
#24526617 - 08/03/17 03:56 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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DeesKnots
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: blingbling] 1
#24526681 - 08/03/17 05:21 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok I'm pretty sure that's too black and white to describe a universe with unlimited color.
I don't fit in either of those choices and I don't have to because I said so.
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sudly
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blingbling said:
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
Work hard, play hard?
I dunno what you're on about so.. lets all whip ourselves for the sin of being born! But hey rationality sounds good too, if you can handle to fathom it.
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redgreenvines
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blingbling said:
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
i think many attempt to convince others because they are uncertain of their own belief - if more people believe it makes it easier, and seems truer
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Kurt
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: sudly]
#24527074 - 08/03/17 09:43 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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sudly said:
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blingbling said:
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
Work hard, play hard?
I dunno what you're on about so.. lets all whip ourselves for the sin of being born! But hey rationality sounds good too, if you can handle to fathom it.
Any pursuit is like a muscle. It is conditioned, as it is worked. Being situated in these terms, is both in freedom (in human terms) and guidance by nature.
Self whipping (the melodramatic display of psychological wounds) is passive aggressive, some kind of compensation. Degenerate really.
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blingbling
what you chicken stew?
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: DeesKnots]
#24528361 - 08/03/17 08:07 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok I'm pretty sure that's too black and white to describe a universe with unlimited color.
I don't fit in either of those choices and I don't have to because I said so.
Well, I'm generalising in order to make a point which I think is generally true for most in our culture and partially true for others.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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blingbling
what you chicken stew?
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: sudly]
#24528381 - 08/03/17 08:13 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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sudly said:
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blingbling said:
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
Work hard, play hard?
lets all whip ourselves for the sin of being born!
Its interesting that you bring that up. There's a technical term for that, namely existential guilt. Its the guilt that one feels for not being the force which generates its own momentum ie. you cannot take credit for how good looking or talented you are. Most of what we do is a causa sui project to deny this basic truth. Causa sui is another technical term that means something like 'self creation.' To put it in psychoanalytic terms its the attempt to become ones own father.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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blingbling
what you chicken stew?
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redgreenvines said:
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blingbling said:
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sudly said:
What is achievement, strive, desire? Pleasure is nice and all but there's more to life than it alone.
People like to tell themselves stories about how what they believe is the ultimate truth which takes human meaning beyond the pleasure principle. In my opinion, this narcissism is totally natural, but still logically indefensible. This leaves us with a choice between blind faith and soul crushing rationality.
i think many attempt to convince others because they are uncertain of their own belief - if more people believe it makes it easier, and seems truer
I agree, and we often begin to hate others who believe in different things because it undermines our belief systems.
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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.
cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.
dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.
White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.
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sudly
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Re: The meaning of life [Re: Kurt]
#24528897 - 08/04/17 12:04 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't want to whip anyone.. self flagellation is a religious thing and all.
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