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jimjames
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Cubensis Potency?
#24211232 - 04/01/17 03:49 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just had some people tell me that a batch of MS cubensis were really weak.
They havent had any psychedelics in 6 months(they say) ate it on an empty stomach. They also claim to be seasoned trippers.
There were 3 of them. One ate 3.5, one ate 1.75, one ate 1.
All said they felt a slight body high and that the experience was underwhelming at best.
This seems incredibly unlikely to me. What do you guys think?
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24211237 - 04/01/17 03:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Happens all the time with MS. Clone the jaw dropping ones if you want some consistency quickly.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24211240 - 04/01/17 03:52 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Too many factors to determine. If any of them are on antidepressents those can cancel out the effects. Most people here will probably say that it is your genetics and that you need to start over on agar.
OR they are POS and trying to stiff you.
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jimjames
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Theyre not asking for anything more, merely declaring it and asking for something stronger in the future.
Im starting a batch of pan cyans, pan tropicalis, and pan copelandia right now, just put spores to agar. I doubt that will be too weak
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24211248 - 04/01/17 03:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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That could do the trick. Nothing wrong with cubes though.
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jimjames
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Thats what ive always thought. I never really test my stuff, but have thought that out of MS there cant really be anything that goes that wrong out of the entire batch. Guess i was wrong
The only reason i havent done cyans is because i dont want someone thinking im just trying to plug my stuff and lie about it being "extra potent" and take a cube dose anyway. Sounds dangerous.
Mad season is probably right that MS just produced a bunk flush this time. Though i did have other people try the same flush and say their experience was great
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24211283 - 04/01/17 04:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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With ms it's better to have smaller shrooms over the larger ones. Just because potency varies so much from fruit to fruit
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24212889 - 04/02/17 10:20 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's extremely common to get bunk potency nowadays. Most people on here will blame it on ssri's and the setting.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: Frank969]
#24212928 - 04/02/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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BLACKXIII said: It's extremely common to get bunk potency nowadays. Most people on here will blame it on ssri's and the setting.
Bullshit. It is not "extremely common" to get "Bunk" potency.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#24213112 - 04/02/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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seems like light doses for "seasoned trippers". Maybe they are not as "seasoned" as they thought. They did the drug together. I bet you if the guy who took the 1/8 was alone or any of them for that matter. They would have " tripped harder"
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3.5 grams to 1 gram? Are you fking kidding me when you say seasoned troopers? Sounds like a bunch of seasoned idiots to me. For real...im not joking.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: Mr Piggy]
#24213330 - 04/02/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mr Piggy said:
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BLACKXIII said: It's extremely common to get bunk potency nowadays. Most people on here will blame it on ssri's and the setting.
Bullshit. It is not "extremely common" to get "Bunk" potency.
yah thats a steaming pile of it.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: mushboy]
#24213453 - 04/02/17 02:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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richismalls said: So I have been growing for over 10 years and never had any issues due to potency. But lately people have been complaining about mow potency. Does it matter when I pick? Also I kept the same liquid culture for a while and from one jar over time I've created 2 other jars. Keeping the strain alive. Will potency go down over time?
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Cyberdog said: What happened: I just took 10 grams of dried cubensis Tasmanian strain and after 2 hours nothing has happened.
Question: What could I have done to have such a massive decrease in potency?
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HUBSonDUBS said: So ive always grown BRF shrooms and potency was def. there and i stepped up to growing with hpoo wow the shrooms were huge (B+) but potency is almost nothing i ate a 1/4 dry and felt almost nothing. Why is this my brf shrooms were much more potent?***ALSO I USED A FOOD DEHDYRATOR FOR THE FIRST TIME SET AT 135 DEG????????********* [/quote
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beatnicknick said:

all the monotubs look normal enough.
i have ortissa indias, south americans, and brazillians. from what i've heard, they're all supposed to be just as potent if not more potent than your average cubensis.
i had four friends sample a batch from each individual tub (five tubs in total)... we each ate a half eigth and felt nothing (one person said they had a body high). it wasn't until the a few days later that we all had a quarter that we started getting some effect... but it wasn't strong, it was like we ate a half eighth.
now i could see one tub getting some bad potency, but all five?!?
now they're all multispore, so i know its a crap shoot as far as how good the genes are.. but all five being almost completely deprived of potency? is there something i'm doing wrong?
i did ground up coco husk (different than coco coir) a little plaster of paris, a lil bit a coffee, not much at all, and they were spawned with WBS.
what is the deal?
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vladmirgc said: Hello,
I followed the BRF-TEK, and prepared small brown rice cakes to cultivate my cubensis. There was no problem raising them. Later I dehydrated them, by using a food dehydrator, at 45C. They were cracker dry, but not toasted.
As it was my first trip, I decided to go with 1.5G. I waited and waited, but no effect. Then I went up to 2.2G, nothing but a upset stomach, followed by mild headache.
I also tried a couple of fresh caps recently. I cannot feel anything. Is it possible all my cubes impotent? I did follow the amounts of brown rice flour and verm.
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meah said: Hello community ,i'm here for ask u opinions about trip I did today. I trip on with the hope of introspection purpose,for know things about me,for confront my anxiety/depression. I did 2,7 gr golden teacher lemon tek today and it wasn't i expected,i felt stomach discomfort/nausea during all trip,not very introspective thoughts , near to unexisting visuals,fainting feeling for a time,and anxiety during trip.Fast 12 hours before trip. So i would know why that happened,this isn't my first time i trip on shrooms.I would know if it's one of the lessons of the shrooms or just bad shrooms;i self growt shrooms with a grow kit (don't wish diseases to my family tree for that =) ). There is a method for know if my shrooms are worth?Can make a tea things?Can nausea itself cause negative feelings while trip? Thanks for read and sorry for grammar,no mother language
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TheOneWithFish said: I've noticed an interesting thing browsing these forums... There seems to be a huge difference in how people generally perceive the standard intensity of certain shrooms doses (ex. of 1/16, 1/8, or the heroic 5 grams).
I know this could come down to body chemistry and experience, but I have read numerous comments saying 1g is lightly noticeable, 1/16 is enough for a body high/super light visuals, and that it takes an 1/8 to have a solid and mind mending trip.
In my 15 or so shrooms trips, I have found these estimations to be wildly off (as do the people I trip with). For me and most of my friends, 1g puts me in solid but light trip (body high, warping/breathing surfaces, etc...)
1/16 gives me SOLID OEVs, such as surfaces heavily morphing, seeing fractal outlines in the sky, watching objects morph into their surroundings, etc...
My highest shroom dose has been 2.5g, and I couldn't imagine going above that without going into full on ego-death. At 2.5 I start to forget who I am (in a conscious sense) and get the visuals listed above to a more extreme extent.
Now my question is, am I getting better shrooms than most people, am I a light weight, or am I just not as used to the more intense psychedelic effects as you all?
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: Frank969]
#24213468 - 04/02/17 03:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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jimjames
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: mushboy]
#24261255 - 04/21/17 07:38 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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So i ended up growing out a new batch from some extra spawn i had from the same batch they complained aboit, except this time i scratched the bottom of each base with my thumbnail so thst they were heavy blue.
They got back to me today saying they were the best shrooms they ever had....they were just geavily bruised.
People are fucking retarded
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24261266 - 04/21/17 07:46 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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At least they weren't so retarded they think the actives got used up causing the bruising
Bruising and potency have nothing to do with each other
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: jimjames]
#24261271 - 04/21/17 07:48 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's pretty rare for me to take 3 grams and not have an experience. without tolerance it would be intense. However there is a pretty sharp dropoff and 1 or 2 grams is likely to have near no effect. Everyone has a unique biology so some may need more or less.
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I've had Cubes of all different potencies before, and unless they're unusually weak.. You just gotta eat a little more If 2/3 of them ate less than 2 grams then that is their fault.
My all time most powerful trip was on 1.5 grams
The most uncomfortable trip was on 7 grams. We were told we had 1/4 ounce.. So we thought it'd be okay to just split it but it turned out my friend thought he was being nice (it was) and gave us over a half ounce.
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Re: Cubensis Potency? [Re: mushpunx]
#24261470 - 04/21/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats the reason i ALWAYS give the advertised/requested amount.
The amount of people that dont have scales is stupid
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