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OfflineMushroomn00b
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My first bulk grow, questions, help please :)
    #2421078 - 03/11/04 11:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I've grown using the PF tek before, but this will be my first bulk grow.
I will use straw and worm castings as casing for colonized substrate in trays. The terrarium will be a plastic shelf system with piping out to an ultrasonic humidifier.
My questions are...excuse some for being dumb but I wan't to make sure of my options.
I was going to inject my spores into sterilized rye, then allow it to colonize. Afterward I would crumble this stuff up and case it with straw/worm castings. Would it be possible that I could skip this step and just use pasteurized worm castings/straw in the mason jars, then case them with more of the same later on?
Can I pasteurize the rye, if I must use it, instead of sterilizing?
I also ordered this stuff from Triple Helix called Brew. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? Does it work?

All help is greatly appreciated.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421097 - 03/11/04 11:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


First, spores won't germinate on straw. If they do, it will take a lot of time and your pasteurized straw will be contaminated by now.

Even if you are able to get a fully colonized jar of straw, spawning it to some more straw will still be a pain in the ass.

You really have to work with grain first and use colonized grain to inoculate a larger amount of bulk (straw, shit, etc... ). Then, once the spawn run is over, you case it and induce fruiting.

Read a bit more on the subject and reevaluate your method.

Here's a hint : mycelium cultivation on grain!

My personal suggestion : popcorn.

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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421098 - 03/11/04 11:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I was going to inject my spores into sterilized rye, then allow it to colonize. Afterward I would crumble this stuff up and case it with straw/worm castings. Would it be possible that I could skip this step and just use pasteurized worm castings/straw in the mason jars, then case them with more of the same later on?

Yes.


Can I pasteurize the rye, if I must use it, instead of sterilizing?
No. not hot enough to remove endospores....Pressure cook.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: dobinky]
    #2421113 - 03/11/04 11:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Man I just did a search for that brew stuff in the forums, and now all the threads I turned up say triplehelixspores is a rip off site.
Damn I just paid them 80 bucks for a rubbermaid container, hepa filter, and two gloves turned into a flo-hood.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421120 - 03/12/04 12:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lol how did you pay...CC? call your company and say you were charged for something you didnt buy.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: dobinky]
    #2421192 - 03/12/04 12:15 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Would I have to return the item, or just pretend I never ordered it?

Hey I have another ?
When I pasteurize my substrate, how do I know if it's too wet or too dry?


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: dobinky]
    #2421193 - 03/12/04 12:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

rgr. credit card fraud is not playing games. tell them that and refuse to pay. the credit card company should take care of it.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421199 - 03/12/04 12:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

just so you know, you wouldnt be "casing" the grain spawn with the straw/shit. you would be "spawning" the shit/straw. the casing is the non-nutrative substance used to maintain moisture and induce fruiting like for instance "ryche hawks 50/50" or any number of variations.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: acidhead1279]
    #2421315 - 03/12/04 12:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Fish in my head. I just did some reading on the popcorn, I like the idea. But what ratio of water to popcorn should I put in the jars?


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421337 - 03/12/04 12:42 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

read more....  :yesnod:


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2421840 - 03/12/04 02:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah triplehelix tried to get me for my xbox... your first clue should have been that all the stuff on the site is just regular shit! lol. you can get almost everything in his inventory at walmart for cheaper..but...we all take a burn at least once(a shame)..it seems that every time i put something up in the marketplace he contacts me at least twice offering store credit for what he has but i just ignore it


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2422779 - 03/12/04 08:13 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: fIsh in my head]
    #2423358 - 03/12/04 12:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thank ya kindly.
Anyway, I have one more question.
I was trying to think of a good way to set up my cool mist ultrasonic humidifier.
Some people seem to put them inside the shelf terrarium, but I would think this would cause over-humidification. I was going to pipe it in through either...
A) two or three soda bottles connected by tubing to help dissipate the mist.
B) Place the humidifier on the ground next to the terrarium and use a piece of pvc pipe to run from the output of the humidifier to the top of the terrarium and then inside.
What do you think? I was curious because it seems that the mist from the thing doesnt rise more than 2 1/2 feet in the open. So how can I be sure the mist will even make it into the terrarium via either method?


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    #2423435 - 03/12/04 12:36 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Alien]
    #2423638 - 03/12/04 01:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Mushroomn00b, how can you say you were "ripped off" ?  You knew the price of the item when you paid for it.  Basically CC fraud isn't something to play with.  It will be more trouble than what its worth.

As for your grow, definitely colonize grain then transfer that to some straw!!  You'll love it. 

Also, there's a good and bad thing about a first timers bulk grow.  And thats drying. 

You may be use to drying a few grams from PF cakes, try drying a few ounces!!!  Its a good thing that you have to do it, but it sucks when you have to say "How am I going to dry all these"  :smile:

Good Luck
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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Lana]
    #2423725 - 03/12/04 01:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I'll be doing about 20 trays, about 20 square feet of growing space.
For drying, I was just going to use chickenwire over 10 gallon tubs filled with dessicant, surrounded by fans. Would that work?
I'd say I was ripped off because of my ignorant decision. It just seemed to me, at the time, that the description of the item differed from what I actually got.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2423744 - 03/12/04 01:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

doesnt mean you got ripped off... it means that you made an uneducated purchase..


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2423770 - 03/12/04 01:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

~Check out the shroomery vendors page, and
your local hardware store, thats all you really need.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Loki]
    #2423829 - 03/12/04 02:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

If I tell you that I have a sterile flohood with attached hepa filter for all your sterile environment needs, works fantastic, never a problem amazing system one of a time offer 79.95...
Do you expect to get a rubbermaid container with 2 gloves and a fan attached to it?
How about some magical spore brew that will cut your colonization time down to 2-3 days and multiply your spore syringe 11 times! Only 19.95. You wouldn't expect to get a jar of honey water, would you?
Please stop being a dick to me. I didn't ask for it. And I know it was a dumb purchase. But there are more important things to discuss.


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Re: My first bulk grow, questions, help please :) [Re: Mushroomn00b]
    #2423915 - 03/12/04 02:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

if you would have researched a little more you would have found out that the place is a rip-off.....search=k3y!


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