Home | Community | Message Board

Out-Grow.com - Mushroom Growing Kits & Supplies
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Invisiblebastard4life
Travel Agent
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/12/11
Posts: 955
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205368 - 03/30/17 01:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Wow. Bodhisattas quoting things you've said and your saying hes twisting it for his own benefit. What benefit? He's clearly not getting any help from you by twisting words. Just saying is all.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,915
Loc: Milky way
Trusted Cultivator
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205377 - 03/30/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:uhoh:

Forum politics is what everyone cries when they can't fit in with random strangers trying to be shroomy and nice

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bastard4life]
    #24205379 - 03/30/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

The problem is his quoting me doesn't support his statements. Tenacious environmental contaminants does not inherently mean I have trouble with the basics, seeing as the basics are precisely what are responsible for my 99%+ success rate.  The troubles mentioned in the quote didn't even take place until I had been growing successfully 2+ years - they happened after I moved. I have photos of many bulk grows not just before but even after. It is specifically open-air spawning to monos where the troubles began after moving; I did great troubleshooting, and had both great help and confirmation.  Bod's accusations widely miss the reality of it, and by now it's well known he'll purposefully rewrite my situation to suit his desire to bash me

Edit:
For all that, what does it even matter?  The statements are not only untrue, but would have little bearing on the relevance of the method or its abilities and advantages, *even if they were*.  End result is the method works as described, and even my 'haters' have to do their best to beat around the bush away from that fact, trying to undermine me with specious trivialities like these.  It certainly says more about him/them than me.


--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Edited by Violet (03/30/17 01:39 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24205382 - 03/30/17 01:18 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
:uhoh:

Forum politics is what everyone cries when they can't fit in with random strangers trying to be shroomy and nice



That's funny, the only people I seem to have trouble getting along with are self-professed dicks and self-professed trolls, both of which you have indeed self-professed

Quote:

I would much rather discuss factual logistics of the tek, and help lovelaughlibs, than deal with a brand-new TC spouting out bad info about a tek and user he has a long-standing clear bias against.




--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Edited by Violet (03/30/17 01:28 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAndyHinton


Registered: 12/05/16
Posts: 434
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24205419 - 03/30/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Don't worry, bodhi. There's no challenge or competition here. :peace:

My methods are appropriate for my situation, and my substrate-to-yield ratio is sufficient for my needs. That's all I care to say. No numbers, no bragging, no "tek x is better than tek y."

If you're worried about being ignored, please know that I listen quite carefully. You forced me to think critically about my long-term storage tek, and I'm grateful for the chance to improve it.

I draw lessons from everyone with something interesting to say, then adapt them to achieve my own goals. The only thing that matters is that people develop methods to suit their particular needs.

Now 5 posts later, this is turning into a shitstorm. Peace out and be well.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblec10h12n2o
serial dilutor
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/21/15
Posts: 3,200
Loc: the abyss
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24205474 - 03/30/17 01:53 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lovelaughlibs said:
They've since been cased with CVG and are retaining moisture very nicely - I'm very excitedly hoping to see pins within a few days...the wait is so hard!




I don't have any experience with bottle grows but CVG is not a casing material. You do not want to use something nutritive for a casing, rather something like 50/50+

CVG is a bulk substrate and should be used as such

The casing layer is meant to help with the microclimate on the surface, not provide nutrition. Using a nutritive casing layer is bad technique asking for contaminants

(unless there's something fundamentally different about bottles)

I've never used vtek, but enjoy seeing vtek grows, they make for cool pics, and I've always appreciated and enjoyed the non standard views and techniques V brings to the forum, anything that fosters critical thinking and discussion is good in my book

HOWEVER,  I'm not convinced that bodhis criticisms are personal or invalid. they make excellent talking points and provide context (which is essential when discussing alternative techniques). no reason anyone should be offended/upset or sentimental, we are discussing cultivation principles and how they relate to one another,  nothing personal


--------------------

C10's Agar Guide + Tips and Tricks | c10's Flow Hood Build Guide


"Partial knowledge is more triumphant than complete knowledge; it takes things to be simpler than they are, and so makes its theory more popular and convincing."

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Edited by c10h12n2o (03/30/17 02:04 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24205493 - 03/30/17 02:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

No, coir and verm are both fine casing ingredients! Not my preference personally but more than fine in general. And gypsum isn't nutritive per se so it can be added for pH buffer qualities, no issues.

I guess it can kindof depend on certain factors, but overall one shouldn't generally recommend against it.


--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblec10h12n2o
serial dilutor
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/21/15
Posts: 3,200
Loc: the abyss
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205507 - 03/30/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

why would you use a nutritive casing? (coir) vs a standard mix like 50/50+?

of course it might work, but please explain how it's not bad technique vs a non nutritive casing?

op needs to understand the purpose of a casing layer


--------------------

C10's Agar Guide + Tips and Tricks | c10's Flow Hood Build Guide


"Partial knowledge is more triumphant than complete knowledge; it takes things to be simpler than they are, and so makes its theory more popular and convincing."

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Edited by c10h12n2o (03/30/17 02:08 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,915
Loc: Milky way
Trusted Cultivator
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o] * 1
    #24205539 - 03/30/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

To clear the air yes I have a slight personal thing with violet only because she promoted "power" & potency with her method. Completely unsubstantiated. The theory being an unbroken colony; however not even empericaly derived evidence supporting it emerged.

Misleading people to try your things by saying potency and power etc... Thats like giving a stolen credit card to someone with down syndrome to make withdrawals for you. Sorry I don't jive with that


Then there's the inability for you to critically look at your spawn problems.

Maybe you didn't vent your pressure cooker long enough. Other people at least had some tenacity and humility to figure out their spawn issues

You can say you had clean spawn all day but then you say you contaminated at least 50% of you bulk attempts.

Doesn't add up

Tenacious environmental contamination my ass lol. Ask mad season about environmental contamination and how he still managed to grow with clean spawn


Quote:

Violet said:
Tenacious environmental contaminants does not inherently mean I have trouble with the basics



I put my tubs on a carpeted floor in a room that is habited by two cats and two cat litter boxes.

Like I said have a chat with mad season about these problems

Edited by bodhisatta (03/30/17 02:29 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24205568 - 03/30/17 02:27 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

It's okay if you can't jive with that. I never expected everyone to agree, even when so much of it has a known basis, even according to RR, such as unbroken consolidated grain-packed subs.  Frankly that can't be all it is, tho, because that's certainly not all the beef you take with me.  If you were more focused on those more understandably controversial topics, we probably wouldn't but heads nearly so badly, because frankly I totally understand those concerns.  I can't blame you for having them, even, and respect your reasons for them. But again, if that really were what it was, I feel we would have found common ground past that well before now.

To address your edit, again, I wasn't having spawn failures, as exemplified by every single other grow type I did.  You are really trying hard to invalidate a thorough troubleshooting process that succeeded in identifying the variable that caused the issue, and then eliminated it.  Not very sciency of you, trying to make up spooks in my spawn despite mountains of evidence.

As I've said before, I'm really happy for all the myriad people who can get away with practices like those. Years of experience before I even had the problem, and years living with the problem, showed me I wasn't going to have that luck there.  I'm happy for you, but neither your situation nor your luck are mine. Quit imposing your situation into mine, it's not logical.

Quote:

c10h12n2o said:
why would you use a nutritive casing? (coir) vs a standard mix like 50/50+?

of course it might work, but please explain how it's not bad technique vs a non nutritive casing?

op needs to understand the purpose of a casing layer



Well, coir is almost a non-nutritive casing, in a sense. Although apparently different situations (like mine was for 3 years) can have different luck, for the most part people are able to openly spawn to coir in conditions exposed to contams without very bad odds at all. Coir is "resistant" to contaminants enough to work just about as well as 50/50.
That all is why we can "bucket tek" coir, too, when growers typically "properly" pasteurize casing like 50/50


--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Edited by Violet (03/30/17 02:37 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebastard4life
Travel Agent
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/12/11
Posts: 955
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24205594 - 03/30/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
To clear the air yes I have a slight personal thing with violet only because she promoted "power" & potency with her method. Completely unsubstantiated. The theory being an unbroken colony; however not even empericaly derived evidence supporting it emerged.

Misleading people to try your things by saying potency and power etc... Thats like giving a stolen credit card to someone with down syndrome to make withdrawals for you. Sorry I don't jive with that


Then there's the inability for you to critically look at your spawn problems.

Maybe you didn't vent your pressure cooker long enough. Other people at least had some tenacity and humility to figure out their spawn issues

You can say you had clean spawn all day but then you say you contaminated at least 50% of you bulk attempts.

Doesn't add up

Tenacious environmental contamination my ass lol. Ask mad season about environmental contamination and how he still managed to grow with clean spawn


Quote:

Violet said:
Tenacious environmental contaminants does not inherently mean I have trouble with the basics



I put my tubs on a carpeted floor in a room that is habited by two cats and two cat litter boxes.

Like I said have a chat with mad season about these problems



I was talking to a fellow member about his constant trich problems. I told him not to worry try and clean your setup and try again. Mad season specifically said that he's had trich a few times in his monos and aside from removing the substrate which is in a liner he doesn't clean the bin. He makes a new liner and spawns to bulk. He went on to say that if the spawn is clean the spores in the mono won't ever impede with the grow until it's too damaged and he's about done. I'll look it up and put it on here in a few.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelovelaughlibs
Dopamine Slave
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 10/14/15
Posts: 1,811
Loc: England Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205595 - 03/30/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I cased with CVG cos someone told me straight verm was bad + I don't have other casing mixtures at the moment.


--------------------
Ask and ye shall receive; Seek and ye shall find.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24205604 - 03/30/17 02:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lovelaughlibs said:
I cased with CVG cos someone told me straight verm was bad + I don't have other casing mixtures at the moment.



You did fine, I'm looking forward to how it goes!


--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblebodhisattaMDiscordReddit
Smurf real estate agent
 User Gallery
Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/30/13
Posts: 61,915
Loc: Milky way
Trusted Cultivator
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bastard4life]
    #24205606 - 03/30/17 02:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That's right

Otherwise simple air we breathe would also fuck us. Its not like it takes some critical mass of uncleanliness and dust and dirt around to force contaminate your grows.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblec10h12n2o
serial dilutor
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/21/15
Posts: 3,200
Loc: the abyss
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205609 - 03/30/17 02:40 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Violet said:
No, coir and verm are both fine casing ingredients! Not my preference personally but more than fine in general. And gypsum isn't nutritive per se so it can be added for pH buffer qualities, no issues.

I guess it can kindof depend on certain factors, but overall one shouldn't generally recommend against it.





of course it could work, wax paper can work, but using a nutritive casing layer kind of seems like its misunderstanding the point of a casing layer

im fairly certain this is what happened with OP, because he used CVG (a bulk substrate) as a casing layer

coir is a LOOOOOOOONG way from non-nutritive, lots of people (like bodhi) get massive crops out of CVG alone (with most of the nutrients coming from the coir)

yes, coir is relatively contam resistant compared to other bulk substrates, but that doesnt mean its non-nutritive, or that it cant contam, or that nutritive casings are a good idea vs nonnutritive

i love discussions about cultivation principles, and i have disagreed, discussed, and argued with bodhi on many occasions (it usually leads me to a bunch of new stuff to look up and learn about). but never about how much he likes me hahaha... i try to restrict it to cultivation principles and other things that dont require me to be a mind reader


--------------------

C10's Agar Guide + Tips and Tricks | c10's Flow Hood Build Guide


"Partial knowledge is more triumphant than complete knowledge; it takes things to be simpler than they are, and so makes its theory more popular and convincing."

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Edited by c10h12n2o (03/30/17 02:41 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebastard4life
Travel Agent
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/12/11
Posts: 955
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24205617 - 03/30/17 02:44 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Mad Season said:
You need to work on your spawn if you're having issues with trich. If it was just from having spores in your house, we'd all be fucked.

It could just be trich riding along, or bacteria in your spawn, either way you need to make it clean.
Quote:

Mad Season said:
I'm just going to leave this here....

Quote:

Mad Season said:
Let me answer that for you. Why is everyone asking about your techniques?



Are examples of contaminations I had, the 2nd one I had forgotten in my basement for over half a year, with the furnace kicking on every 20 minutes. I had many many contaminations in my days, and I've never felt compelled to clean my room. I got really fuckin anal with agar, as well as spawn, and had these while I was in this situation..



I've never bleached my room. Just a few vacuums. I've never cleaned a few of my FC tubs either. And they had lots of trichoderma..

These bacterial AF trays were fruited in the open air of my basement which had tubs of trichoderma nearby that I forgot about



You spawn in open air, which is covered in contamination spores anyways, fruiting will NEVER be sterile. The thing you need is a clean af established network, that can easily keep contaminations at bay. If you have trich germinating early, it's most likely because bacteria in your spawn has weakened your myceliums "immune system". Bacteria is pretty much always needed for trichoderma to germinate on mycelium.

Weak mycelium contaminates. Kinda obvious really. That means you need stronger mycelium. Which is why people are figuring out your spawn cleanliness, starting with inoculation.




I've also grown pans while this shit was happening. Just saying. When a huge sporeload is introduced you have to be anal AF with your spawn, maybe trying to reduce the spore load would make it easier, but my approach has always been to have impeccable spawn. With it, my house has not hindered me yet.






Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleViolet
 User Gallery


Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24205627 - 03/30/17 02:49 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

For all I know, there was live mold in the walls of the old carpeted *rental house (which itself was in a wooded, humid area near several creeks and rivers).

Accounting for the one variable of open-air spawning completely and utterly eliminated a contamination problem that I had gone without in my first 2 years of growing.  It just doesn't get more clear-cut than that. Doesn't matter if you don't believe it, even still it wouldn't be basis for the kinds of accusations you make

Quote:

c10h12n2o said:
Quote:

Violet said:
No, coir and verm are both fine casing ingredients! Not my preference personally but more than fine in general. And gypsum isn't nutritive per se so it can be added for pH buffer qualities, no issues.

I guess it can kindof depend on certain factors, but overall one shouldn't generally recommend against it.





of course it could work, wax paper can work, but using a nutritive casing layer kind of seems like its misunderstanding the point of a casing layer

im fairly certain this is what happened with OP, because he used CVG (a bulk substrate) as a casing layer

coir is a LOOOOOOOONG way from non-nutritive, lots of people (like bodhi) get massive crops out of CVG alone (with most of the nutrients coming from the coir)

yes, coir is relatively contam resistant compared to other bulk substrates, but that doesnt mean its non-nutritive, or that it cant contam, or that nutritive casings are a good idea vs nonnutritive

i love discussions about cultivation principles, and i have disagreed, discussed, and argued with bodhi on many occasions (it usually leads me to a bunch of new stuff to look up and learn about). but never about how much he likes me hahaha... i try to restrict it to cultivation principles and other things that dont require me to be a mind reader



Nah, coir is not especially nutritious, according to everything I've learned for years. What it has is mostly tied up in lignin, apparently. That's all why it works for cultivation the way it does and why it works fine as a casing. It simply does and has been for years, per pros all the way up to the top like RR.  It's a tough point to argue that coir/verm casing will result in a high contamination chance, and honestly you're talking to someone who would be more likely to argue it than most, and yet you hear me doin the opposite here. Coir casing is fine.


--------------------
Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it!

PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers
The simplest, quickest, safest tek!  For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers!
Violet's Teks and Posts

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblebastard4life
Travel Agent
Male User Gallery


Registered: 03/12/11
Posts: 955
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: Violet]
    #24205634 - 03/30/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Did you even look at my quote from a TRUSTED CULTIVATOR that's not bodhisatta? Mad Season know his shit too.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelovelaughlibs
Dopamine Slave
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 10/14/15
Posts: 1,811
Loc: England Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #24205651 - 03/30/17 02:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

c10h12n2o said:
why would you use a nutritive casing? (coir) vs a standard mix like 50/50+?

of course it might work, but please explain how it's not bad technique vs a non nutritive casing?

op needs to understand the purpose of a casing layer



What are the ingredients in the 50/50+ mix?


--------------------
Ask and ye shall receive; Seek and ye shall find.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblec10h12n2o
serial dilutor
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/21/15
Posts: 3,200
Loc: the abyss
Re: RGS Bottle Grow! Critique/Advise Me! [Re: bastard4life]
    #24205652 - 03/30/17 02:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
That's right

Otherwise simple air we breathe would also fuck us. Its not like it takes some critical mass of uncleanliness and dust and dirt around to force contaminate your grows.





good info

btw i should add:

as a substrate ages, it becomes more acidic. as it becomes more acidic, it becomes far more susceptible to mold, especially trich

this is why we use 50/50+ (peat/verm + oyster shell and/or lime), a non-nutritive casing layer to create a good microclimate for pinning on the substrate surface, oyster shell as a ph buffer and lime to set the ph slightly basic so that is less susceptible to mold and takes longer to acidify

with straight coir, the surface starts acidic and becomes more acidic as it is digested. most people dont case cubes for monotubs, etc, so obviously a colonized uncased CVG substrate can do just fine, but casing with coir undermines many of the reasons to use a casing. (that doesnt mean it wont work, just seems like bad technique, though i am certainly open to explanation if this is not the case)


--------------------

C10's Agar Guide + Tips and Tricks | c10's Flow Hood Build Guide


"Partial knowledge is more triumphant than complete knowledge; it takes things to be simpler than they are, and so makes its theory more popular and convincing."

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Edited by c10h12n2o (03/30/17 02:56 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   North Spore Bulk Substrate   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Help input on a 1st attempt PE and PEU. Do I bottle or do I spawn or it won't matter? more4u2c 627 8 03/02/18 02:08 AM
by 36fuckin5
* critique my setup Becomezen 1,123 14 06/29/05 07:20 PM
by Holydiver
* Complete Professional Growing Tek
( 1 2 3 all )
bluhoney 22,712 43 04/15/24 03:10 PM
by stasis
* preparing RGS C. duckie 1,531 15 07/20/08 02:13 PM
by HazeyRoms
* RGS Prep Shift 2,838 7 06/12/04 05:37 PM
by RogerRabbit
* small grow shroomizzy 1,039 5 10/26/02 03:38 PM
by Bob_J
* Anyone ever grow in a two liter bottle? 1st_timer 4,490 3 05/20/02 10:50 AM
by rain_angel
* Tight(very small) growing places/hiding spots.....
( 1 2 all )
vitamink 5,109 27 10/19/02 11:04 AM
by MsPacMan

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
2,744 topic views. 40 members, 219 guests and 20 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2025 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.