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Offlinefrock
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Stupid Lid Question
    #2420087 - 03/11/04 07:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So while Im waiting for my mycobags to do there thing, I decided to move on and start with the pf tech. My 12 1/2 pint canning jars came in the mail today and I have a quick, and stupid question.

So Im putting 4 holes in each lid. Now, in the pf tech it says to turn the lid upside down so the rubber part on the rim faces up.
(2 piece lid)

Why is this? Is this for better air release in the pressure cooker. If I put it the normal way and screw lids on will there be to much pressure inside the jar and something bad might happen, like a cracked jar or something during pc.

The reason I asked this is I poked holes in 1 lid so far and poked them from the top down (if that makes since) so the sharp edges would be sticking up if I turned the lid upside down, and that would probably poke the masking tape.

So if you understood that last paragraph, whats your thoughts on this?


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: frock]
    #2420149 - 03/11/04 07:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well to answer your stupid lid question, when you go to put your jars in the pressure cooker i have always been told to you want a peice of tin foil under the lid so that when you take your jars out you dont get cold air sucked in with thousands of contams. But if you poked your holes from the top down the pointy edges will be poking into that tin foil you place under your lid creating little holes you might not even see. So if that makes sense im sure you can answer your question now.


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: frock]
    #2420831 - 03/11/04 10:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i've had those sharp edges poke through the foil. put a coffee filter over em with a rubber band. should solve that problem.


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: frock]
    #2420888 - 03/11/04 10:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

if you have a PC dont bother with pf tek...use WBS...way easier and better


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: dobinky]
    #2422699 - 03/12/04 06:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Whats WBS?


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: Juggtop]
    #2422760 - 03/12/04 07:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Juggtop said:
Whats WBS?




WBS= Wild Bird Seed


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: frock]
    #2422804 - 03/12/04 08:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no worries....i've done it both ways.......

if you already have your supplies go ahead with the PF tek it's more forgiving for a first grow.

Good luck


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: frock]
    #2422820 - 03/12/04 09:04 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A friend of a friend etc...used the same 1/2 pint jars with those rubber seal lids(self sealing rings).All you have to do is tighten them down-not extremely tight but just hand tight. The pressure will expand the inside of the jars and as the cool it creates a vaccum inside the jars.The only problem doing this is after they cool down -then you have to use a glove box or something like it cause when you punch your first hole the jar you will notice the vaccum - it goes "phist", sucking in air.It is completely ok to seal these jars before you sterilize them they will not crack "They are canning jars and if you have ever eaten anything that has been canned before you know that these jars do not have "holes"in the lid- the only problem that i can see would be keeping everything sterile when you punch the holes in them- due to the vaccum and it sucking in contams.
I just thought I would share that with you.


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: doc34]
    #2430751 - 03/14/04 10:34 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I thought the lids were supposed to go upside-down to allow for better air exchange during incubation.


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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #2431377 - 03/14/04 03:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The purpose of the lid being put on backwards,is-
  You turn them upside down,put them on jar,put outer ring on and tighten them down - now then,you put a piece of tape on the lid- outer ring and inner ring - what this does,it allows you to loosen the lid as one unit,plus it increases the air space on the inside of the jar if your cake seems too wet you unscrew the lid  one turn- if your cake is too dry you tighten down completely or adjust for proper control of moisture inside of your jar.This is not mandatory though,you can get by without doing this but it increases your chances a little "IMO"
If you use the lids the other way-with seal down,it creates such a "good seal" when heated that it is virtually impossible to remove the lids in one piece without tearing your tape thats holding them in place,which creates problems-no moisture control.Or shall I say "A hell-of-a-hard time" getting it to work.
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Re: Stupid Lid Question [Re: doc34]
    #2431562 - 03/14/04 04:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you for all the responses, it was apreciated.


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