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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24199605 - 03/28/17 12:04 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

How long has it been ?? Id wait another few days before id go damaging the sub i did that once and it didnt fare well


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24199612 - 03/28/17 12:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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My straight RGS cased with straight verm won't pin.

Anyone have any advice/objection to me gently scraping off the uncolonised verm and replacing it with some CVG?



How was the verm prepped?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199628 - 03/28/17 12:15 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Verm was brought to field capacity then placed on top of the RGS with no other techniques. Whenever it got too dry I misted it (usually once-twice a day).

The RGS bottles have been in the SGFC for 8 days and they're not doing anything at all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24199660 - 03/28/17 12:29 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

The verm is probably hosting bacteria. Verm needs pasteurization at minimum

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199662 - 03/28/17 12:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Whoa, shit. I honestly never knew that.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199663 - 03/28/17 12:31 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm I've used verm right out of the bag. It just sucks as a casing layer on it's own
plus it's just cased grain, so there's probably not much water in there either:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199664 - 03/28/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

So dunk, drain, then re-case with bucket tek'd CVG?

If it fucks up, whatever. Better to try and at least learn something, yes?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lovelaughlibs]
    #24199675 - 03/28/17 12:36 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Verm is just not that great as a casing layer on it's own, but it works. Not sure what your
exact issue is, I mainly commented to note that I've used verm right out the bag many times.

Like after doing a bucket of cvg, if it seems it's a little too wet I'll just throw a little
more verm from the bag in there


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199679 - 03/28/17 12:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I recommend you guys look into verm and bacteria

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199682 - 03/28/17 12:40 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well I've scraped off the verm and I'm dunking them at the moment so I'll drain them soon and then re-case with bucket tek'd CVG. We'll see what happens in a week :smile:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: lovelaughlibs] * 1
    #24199708 - 03/28/17 12:51 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Verm is an inert mineral so I can't fathom why it would inherently have bacteria on/in it.
It's an expanded rock done under intense heat and then bagged, I'm pretty sure it's damn near
sterile when it gets to you


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199716 - 03/28/17 12:53 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

After 2 seconds of searching I found this quote from RR

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  It's a mineral so it doesn't harbor endospores or anything, but there could always be mold spores sitting on it, especially if the bag has been open for awhile.

A combination of buffered peat/verm will outperform plain verm.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199728 - 03/28/17 12:57 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

None of the bottles smelled bad at all, nor did they have any "ice creamy" mycelium, but I'm not an expert at spotting bacteria yet.

Regardless, they have had the vermiculite removed, dunked, and re-cased with field capacity CVG. I hope it works out, but if not, oh well!

At least I learned not to case with plain verm, I just thought all the holes in it would be good for a pinning environment and holding humidity close (kinda like with PF cakes).


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199772 - 03/28/17 01:19 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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After 2 seconds of searching I found this quote from RR

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
  It's a mineral so it doesn't harbor endospores or anything, but there could always be mold spores sitting on it, especially if the bag has been open for awhile.

A combination of buffered peat/verm will outperform plain verm.
RR






And actual research, off site. Am I misunderstanding this? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016706109002353&ved=0ahUKEwiUuYDJ9PnSAhUhjVQKHSu1A0kQFggtMAQ&usg=AFQjCNFRxcDsjlNc0AfOzBtxeDbA6hA9cw&sig2=bRwXcyto2vcg0IAs1XPumQ

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199812 - 03/28/17 01:34 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, you are. That article is about the effects of bacteria on vermiculite, not that
vermiculite inherently has bacteria. They add bacteria to verm to see if the different strains
of pseudomonas, which were genetically engineered by the scientists to differ from each other
in one gene only, affect clay aggregate in different ways.

We use verm for a lot of stuff in construction so it's useful to know. Only one strain of
pseudomonas in that study is Wild Type, meaning unaltered, the rest are genetically altered
and definitely not found in verm naturally.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199824 - 03/28/17 01:37 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

But they found bacteria not introduced by man?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199837 - 03/28/17 01:42 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Reread that abstract man. They introduced all strains, including the Wild Type strain, in
order to see how the bacteria processes minerals in verm. They didn't find any bacteria, they
added it.

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Using bacteria of the strain Pseudomonas fluorescens wild type CHA0 and its genetic derivative strains CHA631, CHA77, CHA89, CHA400, CHA661 (which differ in one gene only) the changes in chemical, mineralogical and rheological properties of the clay mineral vermiculite affected by microbial activity were studied in order to test whether the individually different production of metabolites by the genetically engineered strains may alter the clay mineral vermiculite in distinct ways




That is the point of their experiment right there. The rest of the article is on their findings.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #24199843 - 03/28/17 01:44 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Well shit...

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199852 - 03/28/17 01:48 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)



Is this Reishi plate fruiting?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #24199854 - 03/28/17 01:49 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I still wouldn't use it with anything less than pasteurization though :rockon:

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