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Pouring agar for the first time. observations.
    #24188899 - 03/24/17 01:25 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)


I made another leap in my journey to becoming a mushmaster.:awedance:

I wanted it to be super basic so this was just plain ol' pasty agar with green dye. i like green for agar cultures.:tongue2:
I have MEA coming but i was wanted to pour some dishes! so this was like a dry run of sorts.
if i jack up a pour or something ill learn and apply it to the next round of dishes. feel free to recommend your fav agar:thumbup:


the pouring aspect was SUPER BASIC! if you cant pour a dish? eeeh? nothing nice to add.
It is one of those 'just jump in and do it' things. dont think. just pour, grab, stack, repeat.
i used 60mm dishes because they are similar in size to minirounds and im used to the space and
i didnt want to use more agar than needed.:thumbup:

THE HARDER PARTS-

surprisingly getting them out of the sleeve was a pain in the ass. i didnt want to spill them everywhere
so i carefully opened the package at one end and portioned out 3 stacks. like a tub of cookie dough in a way.

the dishes were kinda tricky to grab. i got the hang of it but with gloves and iso it was kinda hard.
plus my left arm shakes when i try to do small work with that hand. its definitely not the dominate hand(yet i yank with it go figure)


just because the glass bottle was cool doesnt mean the HOT ASS media wont be really hot while pouring!!!!
and the pasty agar had a shit load of sediment. maybe i did a bad prep job? its the first time I've made 2cups
at once so maybe i should of cooked it longer? i dunno. but ill be looking that one up:thumbup:


just my observations. any tips and shit id love. happy shrooming. :thaaannks:

Edited by mushboy (03/24/17 10:10 PM)

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #24188917 - 03/24/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

the media shouldn't feel really hot while pouring. it was probably cool to the touch on the outside and burning hot in the middle. swirl it now and then if you're cooling it in open air since it will stratify heat

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24188931 - 03/24/17 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

ill try that and let it cool longer next time. i was just all dope about pouring. made me feel all scienceiee and shit.
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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24188941 - 03/24/17 01:37 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

:bongload:

remember to breathe should help with the shakes

and a few beers

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24188946 - 03/24/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

i used to hold my breath while doing sab but i grew past that. same with washing my hands :wink:

booze is why it shakes.:thumbdown:

but thanks!:thumbup:

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24188948 - 03/24/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Ha! I picked up one of those laser infra red temp things at HD. $30. I use it all the time and lately for checking the temp of my agar before pouring. I pour when it hits 120 F.


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: CapnZ]
    #24188951 - 03/24/17 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Oh, and I get some sediment from the MEA premix too. 2nd batch had less than the 1st. 2nd batch was bigger at 1 L versus 500 ml on the 1st....


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: CapnZ]
    #24188956 - 03/24/17 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

how do people get it clear? i guess filtering it?

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24188960 - 03/24/17 01:43 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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the media shouldn't feel really hot while pouring. it was probably cool to the touch on the outside and burning hot in the middle. swirl it now and then if you're cooling it in open air since it will stratify heat




:whathesaid:

I swirl it sometimes until it is cool enough to touch without burning myself.

I never fill my dishes that high but it looks good.
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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #24188964 - 03/24/17 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

mix in cold, bring to boil filter while hot will give you crystal clear agar in most cases. using malt sometimes precipitates proteins out but generally they'll stay at the bottom and only go into the last dish

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24188969 - 03/24/17 01:46 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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how do people get it clear? i guess filtering it?






I call this pretty clear. I use 10g ELME 10g agar 500ml water.

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mix in cold, bring to boil filter while hot will give you crystal clear agar in most cases.




I mix it in hot (near boiling) water. Worked well so far.
Mixing it with cold water and putting it straight to the PC is what I did years ago. It worked OK but I had to shake the bottle after the PC run. For a long time I mix the agar and malt extract in hot water until it is completely dissolved then I put it into the PC.

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: enlightenment]
    #24188973 - 03/24/17 01:47 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: enlightenment]
    #24188983 - 03/24/17 01:48 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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the media shouldn't feel really hot while pouring. it was probably cool to the touch on the outside and burning hot in the middle. swirl it now and then if you're cooling it in open air since it will stratify heat




:whathesaid:

I swirl it sometimes until it is cool enough to touch without burning myself.

I never fill my dishes that high but it looks good.
:goodluck:



Yup I swirled a lot more on the second batch and also mixed cool before boiling like Bodhi said but did not filter. Still way less sediment than the 1st round. Have to try filtering next time.


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: enlightenment]
    #24188985 - 03/24/17 01:49 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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I never fill my dishes that high but it looks good.
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i filled em half way up. pic looks like they are too the brim.

but i guess you just need enough to cover the bottom of the dish, right?
i never got why some use like half inch thick media layers in half pints.:shrug:

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24188992 - 03/24/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

taking wedges is easier when the agar is not super thin or super thick. like 3/16" or so is where it's at

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24188996 - 03/24/17 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

:whathesaid:

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Some people use dishes or jars for long term storage that's why they fill them up that much. I prefer slants for long term storage of cultures.

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: enlightenment]
    #24190384 - 03/24/17 10:06 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

How did you cool it? Water bath or just sitting out?


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: van hatton]
    #24190405 - 03/24/17 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

i just let it sit out.

it turned solid about 4hrs after pcin? i took it out the second the pc cooled down.
but it was hot as fuck. didnt burn myself or anything but it was like holding a hot ass cup of coffee.

also had issues with the agar cooling and forming a hardened 'drip' after each pour. on the outside of the bottle neck. id unno hard to describe.

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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: mushboy]
    #24190412 - 03/24/17 10:19 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Get a infrared thermometer if your Gunnar let it sit out makes things easier and more consistent

I find if you twist towards the end of the pour (RR reference) you don't get that dribble.


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Re: Pouring agar for the first time. observations. [Re: van hatton]
    #24190415 - 03/24/17 10:20 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

time to re watch lets grow mushrooms. its been a few months. good reference.:thumbup:

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