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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193073 - 03/25/17 08:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes is a valid answer, I suppose. I can't say I'm surprised, but I don't agree.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193099 - 03/25/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tell us why you think "Russia doesn't play well with others" and you might change my opinion.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193135 - 03/25/17 09:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Meh. Our respective opinions about the future aren't really worth trying to debate. In the end, there's no way of knowing until it happens.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193140 - 03/25/17 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Russia is like the US.
that's why, Fal, at least for me; that is, about why i don't trust Russia.
bad blood, would be reason number 2. isn't Putin ex-KGB?
meh.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193185 - 03/25/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: Meh. Our respective opinions about the future aren't really worth trying to debate. In the end, there's no way of knowing until it happens.
But I'm not asking you to predict the future. I'm asking why you said "Russia doesn't play well with others."
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: akira_akuma]
#24193199 - 03/25/17 09:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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akira_akuma said: Russia is like the US.
that's why, Fal, at least for me; that is, about why i don't trust Russia.
bad blood, would be reason number 2. isn't Putin ex-KGB?
meh.
Yes, Putin is ex KGB. What should that mean to us?
Bush Sr is ex CIA. Should that mean anything?
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193200 - 03/25/17 09:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ukraine, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan....they've a long history of it.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193229 - 03/25/17 09:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm asking why you said "Russia doesn't play well with others."
Ukraine, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan....they've a long history of it.
Pick the county above for which you think you think you can make the strongest argument against Russia, and let's discuss. I think it falls well within the subject of this thread...
I summarized what happened in Ukraine here and would really appreciate anyone correcting any mistakes.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193240 - 03/25/17 09:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Against Russia? I'm not sure what you mean.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193268 - 03/25/17 10:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pick the county above for which you think you think you can make the strongest argument that "Russia doesn't play well with others" demonstrating it is incapable of functioning as part of the EU.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#24193271 - 03/25/17 10:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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The genocide in Afghanistan is a good example.
And no, you're trying very hard to create a straw man to attribute to me, but I doubt it'll work.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193280 - 03/25/17 10:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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C'mon, elaborate at length. We hardly ever get into any serious history around here, and it's one of my primary interests.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: ballsalsa]
#24193286 - 03/25/17 10:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm on a phone, bro.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193296 - 03/25/17 10:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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fair enough
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193316 - 03/25/17 10:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you referring to Russia helping the progressives fight the Mujahideen in an Afghan civil war, to prevent religious extremists from ruling that area?
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#24193330 - 03/25/17 10:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193690 - 03/26/17 03:16 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Pick the county above for which you think you think you can make the strongest argument that "Russia doesn't play well with others" demonstrating it is incapable of functioning as part of the EU.
The genocide in Afghanistan is a good example.
And no, you're trying very hard to create a straw man to attribute to me, but I doubt it'll work.
Are you referring to Russia helping the progressives fight the Mujahideen in an Afghan civil war, to prevent religious extremists from ruling that area?
No, I'm talking about the Russians razing villages and killing civilians.
http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft7b69p12h&chunk.id=d0e5195&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e5195&brand=ucpress
Yes, that's the war I'm talking about; the one in which Russia was defending a progressive government against Islamic extremists, and killing many of them in the process.
Killing of civilians during war is not unique to Russia though.
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#24193903 - 03/26/17 07:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Of course not. The u.s. Doesn't play well with others either. Similarly, we wouldn't be a good fit for the EU
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Enlil]
#24193958 - 03/26/17 07:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Russia sucks... 3rd rate power...
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Re: Putin Wants to Join the EU - He Must Be Stopped! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#24193966 - 03/26/17 07:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ukraine.... Poland... hungry... Russians are not great at not genociding people....
Plus they havnt won a war that they didn't jump to the anglo saxon side half way through...
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