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how to induce fewer, larger fruits?
    #2416532 - 03/10/04 07:04 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

hello all,

I've had good success with some 60/40 casings using 60/40 Amazonian BRF substrate. The 'problem' is that there are way too many pins/fruits on the casing surface! This is a problem because it really disturbs the casing surface to harvest so many fruits that are so close together. Also, it makes it difficult to get decent spore prints from such small caps. I've been getting around 20% abort rate with the rest of the surface completely covered in fruits, literally growing one on top of the other. Is there a good method to encourage fewer, larger fruits, presumably yielding the same weight, since the total available food will not change?? Since the pins only grow where the 'microclimate' is ideal, would making the casing surface more uneven lead to fewer pinning points>>less fruits growing bigger off the same food? I've been anal re: smoothing the casing layers, as per the teks - it looks like an ice rink when I'm done!

many thanks for any suggestions!



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Re: how to induce fewer, larger fruits? [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2416728 - 03/10/04 08:19 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

Exactly! I wish I could give some advice but I've been wondering the same thing. Strain definately has a lot to do with it. I've had this with haw and lipa yai but not with other strains. I've also wondered about a more uneven casing layer. So yeah, let's get some more input!

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Re: how to induce fewer, larger fruits? [Re: mockeylock]
    #2416753 - 03/10/04 08:28 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

an uneven casing layer, causing an uneven pis set should do the job easily. however... the increased size of the few shrooms you do get will pale in comparison to the many yyou would get with an even pin set. Doing this is yealy a bad idea, unless you dont care so much about how much you get and only the size of a single mushroom for a trophy of sorts.


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Re: how to induce fewer, larger fruits? [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2417037 - 03/10/04 10:00 PM (20 years, 22 days ago)

Exactly. I would rather have more weight in mushrooms that having less weight and bigger mushrooms. You should trip out jsut the same on small ones.

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Re: how to induce fewer, larger fruits? [Re: mindfunk1]
    #2418064 - 03/11/04 03:30 AM (20 years, 21 days ago)

Sounds like you just want a larger fruiting strain. AFOAF recommends B+, but has heard orissa may be the biggest.

Some strains just seem to do better with some particular methods too. For instance, AFOAF has some simple casings with verm bottom, corn, then cased with jiffy mix going side by side using the same methods and conditions. The B+ have done pretty good, while the cambos havn't even been worth the effort -- they've yielded much worse than they would have done on pf cakes in the same space. Same problem, lots of small pins that dry up to nothing they're so thin.


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