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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25142462 - 04/16/18 04:09 AM (2 years, 10 months ago)

Added in a link to the sgfc-mono hybrid, also added another pic of one of my cakes from my most recent grow.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: McGrimm]
    #25169510 - 04/27/18 05:13 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

About how long after the dunk and roll, and placing into chamber do you see pins? Mine have been in for about 10 days now, and no pins are visible. They still look healthy and are a nice white color, but I see no pins. Thank you.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: sirharrynuggz]
    #25169640 - 04/27/18 06:11 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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About how long after the dunk and roll, and placing into chamber do you see pins? Mine have been in for about 10 days now, and no pins are visible. They still look healthy and are a nice white color, but I see no pins. Thank you.




it depends, Usually 3-14 days. If you let them consolidate for a week after full colonization usually 3-7 days. But it can take longer.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25180494 - 05/02/18 08:22 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

I notice you didn’t mention agar? Do you even need it? I’m reading up on so manny techniques and notice some people don’t add it to there growing techniques. I’m new and trying to find out photos or videos of someone using grown afar and adding the spore.... I probably don’t make sense.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: KOD1992]
    #25180503 - 05/02/18 08:25 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

This method does not require agar, but if you got it, use it and make grain jars.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25184211 - 05/04/18 04:47 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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4. And into the jar the needle goes. Try to angle the needle a bit, so when you slide it in it goes up against the glass in between the verm layer and the glass. I use about a drop or two in each inoculation hole.




In the past i thought that about 1 cc total per jar was what you were supposed to do. But if i could get more jars out of each syringe that would be awesome.

How much solution would you say you end up using total per jar? I am referring to Liquid culture.

i have 30 ccs of liquid culture and am wondering how many jars i could get out of it. I was planning on 30 jars.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 1
    #25184402 - 05/04/18 06:30 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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4. And into the jar the needle goes. Try to angle the needle a bit, so when you slide it in it goes up against the glass in between the verm layer and the glass. I use about a drop or two in each inoculation hole.




In the past i thought that about 1 cc total per jar was what you were supposed to do. But if i could get more jars out of each syringe that would be awesome.

How much solution would you say you end up using total per jar? I am referring to Liquid culture.

i have 30 ccs of liquid culture and am wondering how many jars i could get out of it. I was planning on 30 jars.




with lc anywhere from a drop, half a cc to 1 cc is gonna get you super fast colonization times. the thing is you dont wanna throw off your water content of your BRF jars.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25184418 - 05/04/18 06:36 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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4. And into the jar the needle goes. Try to angle the needle a bit, so when you slide it in it goes up against the glass in between the verm layer and the glass. I use about a drop or two in each inoculation hole.




In the past i thought that about 1 cc total per jar was what you were supposed to do. But if i could get more jars out of each syringe that would be awesome.

How much solution would you say you end up using total per jar? I am referring to Liquid culture.

i have 30 ccs of liquid culture and am wondering how many jars i could get out of it. I was planning on 30 jars.




with lc anywhere from a drop, half a cc to 1 cc is gonna get you super fast colonization times. the thing is you dont wanna throw off your water content of your BRF jars.



Is there a noticable difference between using one drop per hole, and using 1cc? Or is the difference fairly negligable.

For example, would using only a drop add on weeks of colonizing time compared to a whole cc, or only maybe a few days or something?

Also, if you had to guess, how many jars would you personally make with 30cc of liquid culture?


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25184608 - 05/04/18 08:09 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

30 ccs? you could do anywhere between 20 to 70 jars. depends how steady you are with a syringe / how much liquid per holes. It wont be to super noticable, a few days to a week depending on culture genetics.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
    #25184837 - 05/04/18 10:18 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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30 ccs? you could do anywhere between 20 to 70 jars. depends how steady you are with a syringe / how much liquid per holes. It wont be to super noticable, a few days to a week depending on culture genetics.



Alright sweet a week extra isnt bad. Ill aim for about 2 drops per hole then, which i think should be well under a cc. Thanks for the help

Edit: Is medium grade vermiculite Ok to use? I have the vigoro brand verm from home depot.



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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25184964 - 05/04/18 11:49 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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30 ccs? you could do anywhere between 20 to 70 jars. depends how steady you are with a syringe / how much liquid per holes. It wont be to super noticable, a few days to a week depending on culture genetics.



Alright sweet a week extra isnt bad. Ill aim for about 2 drops per hole then, which i think should be well under a cc. Thanks for the help

Edit: Is medium grade vermiculite Ok to use? I have the vigoro brand verm from home depot.






Should be. usually the finer stuff is better for the dunk and roll


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran] * 1
    #25185115 - 05/05/18 01:57 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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30 ccs? you could do anywhere between 20 to 70 jars. depends how steady you are with a syringe / how much liquid per holes. It wont be to super noticable, a few days to a week depending on culture genetics.



Alright sweet a week extra isnt bad. Ill aim for about 2 drops per hole then, which i think should be well under a cc. Thanks for the help

Edit: Is medium grade vermiculite Ok to use? I have the vigoro brand verm from home depot.






Should be. usually the finer stuff is better for the dunk and roll



Alright sweet. One last question. I have a bunch of the regular half pints, like in the picture below, but im trying to decide if its worth ordering the shorter wide mouth ones. I've seen some people say they colonize quicker, but im not sure if thats true.

Do you think its worth ordering the wide mouth's or would these be fine? I've used these regular jars already, but if using the wide mouths would decrease colonization time or something id definitely purchase some.



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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 1
    #25185117 - 05/05/18 01:59 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

those ones work fine for LC and MS IME. I just prefer the shorter ones. as long as they are not tapered your good to go.


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    #25185120 - 05/05/18 02:02 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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those ones work fine for LC and MS IME. I just prefer the shorter ones. as long as they are not tapered your good to go.



Yea ive used them already, the cakes slid out nice and easy.

So there wouldnt really be any benefit to the wide mouths you think? When i used about 1cc of LC last time these regular jars took between 20-30 days to fully colonize.


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25185185 - 05/05/18 03:02 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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those ones work fine for LC and MS IME. I just prefer the shorter ones. as long as they are not tapered your good to go.



Yea ive used them already, the cakes slid out nice and easy.

So there wouldnt really be any benefit to the wide mouths you think? When i used about 1cc of LC last time these regular jars took between 20-30 days to fully colonize.




sounds about right to me. a lot of it is culture genetics and amount of inoc points. you really only save a few days using a live culture on BRF. you dont have to wait as long for germination like you do with MS syringes. Plus. grains you can shake, brf you cant.


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    #25185198 - 05/05/18 03:09 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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those ones work fine for LC and MS IME. I just prefer the shorter ones. as long as they are not tapered your good to go.



Yea ive used them already, the cakes slid out nice and easy.

So there wouldnt really be any benefit to the wide mouths you think? When i used about 1cc of LC last time these regular jars took between 20-30 days to fully colonize.




sounds about right to me. a lot of it is culture genetics and amount of inoc points. you really only save a few days using a live culture on BRF. you dont have to wait as long for germination like you do with MS syringes. Plus. grains you can shake, brf you cant.



Sweet I'll just stick with these jars then, that makes things a lot easier.

I guess I lied when I said that was the last question:facepalm3: lol my bad just one more. Can I use the same lights I fruit with for my colonizing jars? I use a 6500k cfl bulb. Is it possible to give them too much light?


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 1
    #25185203 - 05/05/18 03:13 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

your good. my jars colonize on a table next to monos im fruiting.


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    #25185206 - 05/05/18 03:15 AM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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your good. my jars colonize on a table next to monos im fruiting.



Awesome, thanks for all the help


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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25186080 - 05/05/18 04:28 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, what’s your opinion on how much it matters whether one steams or pressure cooks?


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    #25186251 - 05/05/18 06:23 PM (2 years, 9 months ago)

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Hey, what’s your opinion on how much it matters whether one steams or pressure cooks?




pressure cooking is faster. but they both work.


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