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#24682662 - 10/04/17 06:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Update: Fixed a small formatting error on the field capacity portion of the guide. 
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24693991 - 10/08/17 02:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can someone post or point me in the right direction that explains the lighting setup in detail? Can the fruiting chamber be positioned in a closet with the door open or should it be regular lit room with the additional lighting as well. Also, should the SGFC be positioned near the floor? I live in a smaller apartment and am having trouble deciding where to position this and am wondering if I higher position may work better for me. Thanks so much for your help.!
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: deeswpr19]
#24694036 - 10/08/17 02:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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a 5000k to 6500k light near it will be fine. if theres a bar for hanging clothing on use one of those clamp light fixtures and clamp it above the chamber 
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24698296 - 10/09/17 11:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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is it typical for only 1 of 4 jars to get inoculated? 1 of my jars has white webs in it starting but the other 3, I don't see anything yet.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: boatclub]
#24698319 - 10/09/17 11:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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could be slow germination. or it ends up being nothing
wait and see.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24707493 - 10/13/17 05:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great guide for beginners, no problem understanding anything.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Joystar]
#24707510 - 10/13/17 05:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joystar said:
Great guide for beginners, no problem understanding anything.
Im going to Add in how I do my lights for the SGFC. the tub will be empty but the idea on how your lighting should be set up will be there. will add it in when I get home.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24707523 - 10/13/17 05:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ziran said:
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Joystar said:
Great guide for beginners, no problem understanding anything.
Im going to Add in how I do my lights for the SGFC. the tub will be empty but the idea on how your lighting should be set up will be there. will add it in when I get home.
Is it important how the light is set up? i got LED's which are 4000 Kelvin with 35W(2 of those) are those good enough?
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
2) Can't steam Pints?! Shit that's exactly what I just did. Steamed 4 pint jars for 2 hours each in a standard pot. Seems to be working so far...
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Joystar]
#24708202 - 10/13/17 11:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Joystar said:
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Ziran said:
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Joystar said:
Great guide for beginners, no problem understanding anything.
Im going to Add in how I do my lights for the SGFC. the tub will be empty but the idea on how your lighting should be set up will be there. will add it in when I get home.
Is it important how the light is set up? i got LED's which are 4000 Kelvin with 35W(2 of those) are those good enough?
Those should be okay ish. I use 5000k to 6500k lights. And What I meant by light setup is how I aim my lights at my SGFC.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: meltdowner]
#24708205 - 10/13/17 11:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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meltdowner said:
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
2) Can't steam Pints?! Shit that's exactly what I just did. Steamed 4 pint jars for 2 hours each in a standard pot. Seems to be working so far...
I think the thing with pints is you need to steam for longer to get the insides to the proper temperature.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24708357 - 10/14/17 01:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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By request, People have been asking about lighting. I use 5000k to 6500k light bulbs. They are cheap as fuck and work well Here are some examples of How I do my lighting, and then for people doing them in a closet, how I would do the lighting for that as well.
I do my lighting like so. I take my clamp light, and clamp it to my SAB table that is next to my SGFC. My lights are also plugged into a 24 hour timer for 12 hours on 12 hours off.
If I were to grow in a closet, I would simply do my lighting like so.
Hopefully this helps people out
Also added this to OP.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24708769 - 10/14/17 09:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just for anyone wondering, i went to home depot yesterday, 4 phillips 6500k CFL's $9.xx and those alum dome clamp lights were $8 a pop.. cheap as can be.
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Ziran said:
By request, People have been asking about lighting. I use 5000k to 6500k light bulbs. They are cheap as fuck and work well Here are some examples of How I do my lighting, and then for people doing them in a closet, how I would do the lighting for that as well.
I do my lighting like so. I take my clamp light, and clamp it to my SAB table that is next to my SGFC. My lights are also plugged into a 24 hour timer for 12 hours on 12 hours off.
If I were to grow in a closet, I would simply do my lighting like so.
Hopefully this helps people out
Also added this to OP.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24709491 - 10/14/17 02:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got a 3 pack of the twisty cfls for like 9 bucks at walmart. and they last a long time. the ones I got ive been using for like 2 years now. and those clamp deals last along time if you dont move them to terribly often.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24713411 - 10/16/17 05:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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From what I understand you don't only want a light in the 50000k - 65000k range. The k is in relation to the color spectrum. Intensity matters too.
This is not a quote, it my best recall of RR's lighting notes in the "all of RR's notes on cultivation thread".
If you want better than mediocre preformance you will need a light in the 50000k - 70000k range with 65000k being nominal. The light needs to be intense enough to penetrate through the top layers of the casing to stimulate primordia formation below the surface.
Typically fluorescent lighting and 100% humidity do not go together well so keep your lighting on the outside of your chamber to avoid electricution but close enough to allow the lighting to penetrate through the top layers of your substrate to stimulate good primordia formation.
EDIT: Natural diffused daylight will do the job nicely if you don't have the lighting you need. Typically south facing windows are too bright so you will want a north facing window or E or W so the sun can't make direct contact with your chamber.
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I apologize if this was already covered. It's been a minute since I read all of the way through this thread. Again OP, thank you for the updated version.
All of RR's notes on cultivation also says don't use an incubation chamber or darkness. Incubation should be done in a clean room on an open shelf more than 2 feet above the floor at normal comfortable room temperature (70's) and receive regular fluorescent lighting (65000k nominal) and/or natural diffused daylight.
Apparently spawn that was grown out in the presence of light produces a better flush.
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deeswpr19 said:
Also, should the SGFC be positioned near the floor? I live in a smaller apartment and am having trouble deciding where to position this and am wondering if I higher position may work better for me. Thanks so much for your help.!
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more than 2 feet above the floor at normal comfortable room temperature (70's)
When choosing locations keep in mind that 90% of a rooms contaminates are within a foot of the floor. Exterior contamination is less of an issue with colonized substrate but best practices are always recommended.
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very nice write up, thanks for sharing
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24767192 - 11/07/17 07:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Added in a quote from a post about field capacity into the field capacity section. hopefully that helps clarify somethings for our new users
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24771680 - 11/09/17 04:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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