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23 Quart Presto is what's often recommended.
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I use an AA921- though I wish I had gone ahead and sprang for the AA941.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
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After you innoc is there no need to cover up the innoc holes?
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No. That is what the dry verm layer is for. If you'd like you can put a layer of micropore tape over them.
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After you innoc is there no need to cover up the innoc holes?
No. That is what the dry verm layer is for. If you'd like you can put a layer of micropore tape over them.
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How big are the pressure cookers you guys are buying?
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23 Quart Presto is what's often recommended.
This.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24646890 - 09/20/17 05:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey man im learning
we got you bro.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24657469 - 09/25/17 01:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Updated OP with correct jar sizes. 4 oz and 8 oz jelly jars. Had half pints on there and those dont work very well for MS to pftek. 1/2 pints would work fine when using an LC or LI thou
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24658086 - 09/25/17 08:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bookmarked this as i am doing my first PF grow this coming week.. i did have a couple of questions.. Why do you put foil between the perl and the cake? Just curious why the cake can't sit on the perl.
Also.. what is the advantage of wide mouth jars? i got the normal kerrs 1/2pint jelly jars with no shoulder..
Last.. i have read people saying cover innoc holes. and others say it doesn't matter due to the dry layer acting like a filter. Is covering them with pore tape or whatever you want just more protection?
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24658224 - 09/25/17 10:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
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Thanks Hatter, that cleared it up:) I will pick up some MP tape before i start..
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24658330 - 09/25/17 11:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got a little write up in my journal of easy made lids for PF tek. Uses silicone for a self healing injection port and MP tape for Gas Exchange.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24658623 - 09/25/17 01:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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icetech said:
Thanks Hatter, that cleared it up:) I will pick up some MP tape before i start..
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
You cant really birth a tapered jar. The wide mouth jars the cake will pop right out when you birth it.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24658643 - 09/25/17 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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He got regular mouth HALF PINTS. I have used these and the cakes slide out like a wide mouth pint.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: Ziran]
#24658678 - 09/25/17 02:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah they are smooth sided and no shoulder so shouldn't be an issue.. my cakes will just be taller and skinner is all 
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Thanks Hatter, that cleared it up:) I will pick up some MP tape before i start..
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1. The foil keeps it from trying to grow into the perlite. If it is growing it is not fruiting.
2. The wide mouth cakes are more stable. Less prone to tipping from a good sized fruit. I personally use wide mouth full pints instead of half pints, but I also run mine through a pressure cooker, can't steam pints.
3. The micro pore tape will help keep even more contams out. some of us use it on our grain jars just fine, as well as our no pour agar plates. I personally would trust the MP tape over the layer of vermiculite.
You cant really birth a tapered jar. The wide mouth jars the cake will pop right out when you birth it.
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24663566 - 09/27/17 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry, one last thing.. brought my jar lids to work to pop holes in them (going with 2 holes since the non wide mouths are not very large and 4 seems excessive)
As far as tape goes. i have been reading and of course getting tons of different ways of doing things.. i will assume if using MP tape you put it on right after innoc? i know it probably seems silly but i keep seeing people putting it on before PC and just double checking..
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: icetech]
#24663570 - 09/27/17 10:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If anything the non widemouth jars need more than 4 holes they stall out way more easily than the correct sized jars, the wide mouth ones.
I wouldn't bother with tape at all period
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Re: Updated PF Tek Guide [Re: bodhisatta]
#24663802 - 09/27/17 12:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn... glad i asked.. next time i will pick up some wide mouths.. and pop some more holes in these..
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If anything the non widemouth jars need more than 4 holes they stall out way more easily than the correct sized jars, the wide mouth ones.
I wouldn't bother with tape at all period
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I got a little write up in my journal of easy made lids for PF tek. Uses silicone for a self healing injection port and MP tape for Gas Exchange.
What type of silicone? I have done this w RTV silicone but I am wondering if regular construction silicone would work. When I first tried this my injection ports were a little thick. I found if you cut a condom into little pieces you can flatten out your RTV silicone injection port to about 1/4 inch thick with the condom scraps and then carefully remove the condom scrap after a couple hours of cure time. It will leave you with a nice flat disc shaped injection port. Do it on both top and bottom side of the lid. Makes a real nice professional looking port.
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I use the clear loctite stuff. just look at the temperatures it can withstand on the back of the package.
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