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Re: Dumpcare [Re: Enlil]
    #24189129 - 03/24/17 02:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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L.A. DWP is owned by the city, and provides excellent service at a very competetive price when compared to other energy providers in the region.  Their employees enjoy good pay and benefits, and It contributes to the city's funding.  I don't know anyone who has Edison, for instance, that doesn't wish they had DWP service.



You do now. 

I've had Edison for about 15 years, and I had DWP for about 8.  DWP is twice the cost, half the service, and unbelievably rude when I did actually have to deal with their employees.




did you mean to write something like '15 to 23 years ago DWP was twice the cost, half the service, and rude'?  am i reading correctly that your most recent experience with DWP was 1.5 decades ago?

perhaps their services, prices, and customer care has significantly changed after such a long interval.

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: Kryptos]
    #24189134 - 03/24/17 02:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Med schools can't afford to enroll people who won't succeed. It is a very labor and resource intensive process to educate doctors.


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Re: Dumpcare [Re: relic] * 3
    #24189145 - 03/24/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

trump pulling the bill without a vote and his threats of 'if you don't pass this bill you're stuck with the ACA' is an obvious political ploy to pass the buck onto someone else so he can spin a denial of failure.

he's toying with healthcare for political points like the most typical of DC politicians.  "he's an outsider, not one of them inside the beltway good-for-nothings".  lol, suckers.

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: koods]
    #24189180 - 03/24/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Med schools can't afford to enroll people who won't succeed. It is a very labor and resource intensive process to educate doctors.




Yes, and the solution to this is not to just give pre-med students a 4.0 GPA for signing up.

It also has very little to do with dynamiting the Department of Education, but I get the feeling that it is or will soon be oddly relevant.

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: relic] * 5
    #24189229 - 03/24/17 03:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Trump blamed the Dems for not cooperating with the Repubs on the vote when in fact,
this would have passed if all the Repubs voted for it.
Democrats had nothing to do with its failing.

His budget approval is going to be even harder to get through.

Deal maker, lol. :dealwithit2:

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: vinsue] * 2
    #24189297 - 03/24/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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“As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us, we won’t have to come to them,” he said. “After Obamacare explodes.”
“The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare.”



Psychopath

Hey, maybe you could fix the problems with Obamacare. But then it would still be Obamacare, and that isn't acceptable because it's not named in your honor.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/24/17 03:47 PM)

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: koods]
    #24189334 - 03/24/17 04:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

the hoi polloi is the new renaissance. everyone's like "Marxist dialectic!", "did you know that Marx was a mentor to Hegal?", "Hegalian dialectic!"

"liberalism is a virus! it's the end of world if we let them commie heathens take over, we'll be persecuted like Jesus, we must purge them, lest the world be taken over by fire! take that Marx!"

and i'm like ":facepalm:"

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: koods] * 1
    #24189337 - 03/24/17 04:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

  • “We are going to get rid of Obamacare and repeal it and replace it.” [Portland, ME, 3/3/16]
  • “Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to.” [Trump campaign website, 3/3/16]
  • “We are going to get rid of a lot of things. We are getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it. OK?” [Orlando, FL, 3/5/16]
  • “On health care where we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare…” [GOP debate, Jupiter, FL, 3/8/16]
  • “We have discussed repealing and replacing Obamacare. It is going to happen.” [Fayetteville, NC, 3/9/16]
  • “We can’t have good health care. Obamacare is a disaster. Got to be repealed and replaced.” [Fox News, 3/11/16]
  • “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare and we are going to win with its replacement.” [Dayton, OH, 3/12/16]
  • “We’re going to repeal and replace Obama care. It’s going to be repealed and replaced.”[Kansas City, MO, 3/12/16]
  • “We are gonna lead on health care, we are gonna get rid of Obamacare, repeal and replace.” [West Chester, OH, 3/13/16]
  • “Obamacare is a disaster. It will be repealed and replaced as sure as you’re sitting there. Repealed and replaced. Thank you. And we will have alternatives that will be so good, that’s so much less expensive. So much better. You will actually be able to keep your doctor and to have your plan.” [Tampa, FL, 3/14/16]
  • “And I have to tell you, health care, Obamacare is a disaster. We’re gonna repeal and replace it. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it.” [Hickory, NC, 3/14/16]
  • “We’re repealing and replacing Obamacare that I can tell you.” [Youngstown, OH, 3/14/16]
  • “We’re gonna terminate Obamacare. We’re gonna repeal it and replace it with great health care for far less money. That’s gonna happen. That is going to happen.” [Fountain Hills, AZ, 3/19/16]
  • “HANNITY: You said to me you will repeal “Obama care” and replace it with health care savings accounts. TRUMP: Correct.” [Fox News, 3/21/16]
  • “So we’re gonna get efficiency in government but we’re gonna end Obamacare. We’re gonna replace it with something so much better and so much less expensive.” [Janesville, WI, 3/29/16]
  • “Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced.” [Appleton, WI, 3/30/16]
  • “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare which is a total catastrophe. You are going to have great health insurance.” [Milwaukee, WI, 4/4/16]
  • “Obamacare is going to be repealed and replaced with something much less expensive that works much better.” [CNN, 5/14/16]
  • “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare, which is a disaster.” [Charleston, WV, 5/5/16]
  • “HANNITY: You’re making a promise to balance the budget. You’re making a promise to build the wall. You made a promise you’re going to repeal ‘Obamacare’… TRUMP: A hundred percent.” [Fox News, 5/18/16]
  • “We are going to repeal and replace Obamacare.” [Lawrence Township, NJ, 5/19/16]
  • “Because we will terminate Obama care and replace it, believe me, with something good. Believe me. [Cheers and applause] Repeal and replace Obama care.” [San Diego, CA, 5/27/16]
  • “We’re gonna repeal and replace Obamacare with something great.” [Fresno, CA, 5/27/16]
  • “And by the way, we are going to repeal and replace Obamacare. Just remember that.” [New York, NY, 5/29/16]
  • “A lot of part timers because of Obamacare, which is a disaster, which we’re going to repeal and replace with something much better, and much less money.” [Fox News, 6/21/16]
  • “We will repeal and replace job killing Obamacare. It is a total disaster.” [New York, NY, 6/22/16]
  • “We will repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare. You will be able to choose your own doctor again.” [Acceptance speech in Cleveland, OH 7/21/16]
  • “We will repeal and replace the horrible disaster known as Obamacare.” [Manchester, NH, 8/25/16]
  • “On my first day in office, I am going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace, I just said it, Obamacare.” [Asheville, NC, 9/12/16]
  • “Also on my first day, I will ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Clive, OH, 9/13/16]
  • “Also on my first day i’m going to ask congress to send me a bill to immediately repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.” [Canton, OH, 9/14/16]
  • “The 3.8 percent Obamacare tax on investment income will be repealed, as will the alternative minimum tax.” [Trump campaign website, 9/15/16]
  • “Repeal and replace Obamacare with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs).” [Trump campaign website, 10/6/16]
  • “Next, I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my administration. … The Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with health savings accounts. We can do that.” [Gettysburg, PA, 10/22/16]
  • “My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability.” [Sanford, FL, 10/25/16]
  • “When we win on November 8th and elect a Republican congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. Have to do it. I will ask Congress to convene a special session so we can repeal and replace, and it will be such an honor for me, for you, and for everybody in this country because Obamacare has to be replaced and we will do it and we will do it very, very quickly.” [Valley Forge, PA, 11/1/16]


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: koods] * 1
    #24189340 - 03/24/17 04:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Dumpcare [Re: relic]
    #24189428 - 03/24/17 04:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

If I meant to write that, I would have.  I'm very precise with language.  And no, you're not reading correctly.


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Re: Dumpcare [Re: Enlil]
    #24189570 - 03/24/17 05:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

ok Enlil. 

if written by the average poster it's at least a little ambiguous.  for one as precise as you it's glaringly so, imo.  thanks for clearing up my evidently poor comprehension.

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Re: Dumpcare [Re: Enlil]
    #24189586 - 03/24/17 05:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm with relic.  Your post was ambiguous.  I even thought relic's guess would prove correct.


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Re: Dumpcare [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #24189694 - 03/24/17 06:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

for the record:
https://www.ladwp.com/ladwp/faces/wcnav_externalId/a-fr-elecrate-schel?_adf.ctrl-state=34bwco1qu_4&_afrLoop=27854899985667
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  2017                                          2017
Consumption Charge            Power Access Charge

Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3             Tier 1       Tier 2       Tier 3


0.14872 0.18401 0.18401       0.85       3.00       9.00




Edison's link was realy long
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Tier 1 16¢ Baseline kWh (up to 100%)
          Tier 2 25¢ 101% to 400% over Baseline
High Usage Charge 31¢ More than 400% over Baseline
Other Applicable Charges
  3¢ Daily Basic Charge - This is a flat daily charge that is billed on a monthly basis
  33¢ Minimum Charge - This is a flat daily charge applied if delivery charges are below a minimum.




It doesn't look like DWP is twice the price to me.
like i said, they also compensate their employees generously while contributing profits to the city.
I'll let Enlil have the last word on this as I don't want to derail the thread further than i already have.


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Re: Dumpcare [Re: relic] * 1
    #24189850 - 03/24/17 07:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

It isn't ambiguous about my position and my point.  If I was trying to lay out a precise timeline of events, sure, but that's not what I was doing.  I have had Edison and DWP multiple times each throughout my life.  I gave an estimate of the total number of years with each in order to demonstrate that both have had an adequate time to prove their value, or lack thereof.


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