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bastard4life
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WayLitJim tek
#24158952 - 03/13/17 02:24 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't find it. Wanting to try it. I have some pan cyan I'd like to grow.
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bastard4life
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cronicr said: for your cakes you could indeed just crumble and spawn them to amanure based sub, to make cakes for pans it's one part everything, verm flour dry manure and water
I found this from almost 2 years ago. It's from a trusted cultivator so maybe ill turn this into a pan cyan pf tek grow log.
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Why don't you just use a tried and tested pan cyan cake tek then https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18357343 There's also like 80 grow logs that came up in my search that also have detailed pan grows
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K. Thanks for that. I'll mix up a dozen jars tonight or tomorrow and inoculate shortly after. I'll keep tabs here too.
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Hey bodhisatta that tek says plastic Ziploc containers. Can I substitute glass 1/2 pint wide mouths?
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Sure why not
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bastard4life
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Just making sure.
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bastard4life
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Hey bodhisatta that tek says plastic Ziploc containers. Can I substitute glass 1/2 pint wide mouths?
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bastard4life said: Hey bodhisatta that tek says plastic Ziploc containers. Can I substitute glass 1/2 pint wide mouths?
Sure why not
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I'm going to turn this into a grow log. I followed WayLitJim pan cyan tek. I used I 3 cups horse manure, 3 cups verm, 3 tablespoons coffee grounds,1 tablespoon gypsum, 3 cups water which I mixed in a big bowl and let sit about ten minutes. I then added 3 cups brf after I let it sit. I loaded into jars with a dry verm layer on top. I'm waiting for pc to come to temp. I'll pc for an hr like the tek says. First thing in the am I'll inoculate via a spore syringe I'm making from a print. For viability I'll also inoculate 2 60mm plates just in case my jars all contam. Cross your fingers I get some good flushes I can clone. I should add that WayLitJim recommends worm castings added in also but says it's optional.
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bastard4life said: Hey bodhisatta that tek says plastic Ziploc containers. Can I substitute glass 1/2 pint wide mouths?
Sure why not 
Because the tek calls for ziplock containers and i overlooked the mention of jars in the tek cuz im stoned. Better safe than sorry right?
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bastard4life said:
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bastard4life said: Hey bodhisatta that tek says plastic Ziploc containers. Can I substitute glass 1/2 pint wide mouths?
Sure why not 
Because the tek calls for ziplock containers and i overlooked the mention of jars in the tek cuz im stoned. Better safe than sorry right?
I think you're very stoned, you posted the same thing twice but about 40 mins apart, it tickled me cos I've done similar shit stoned
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I'm on a cell phone. I lost service. The phone sent it twice. Once right before I lost service and right after.
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bastard4life
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Whats the pc time I've checked that link but it doesn't say. Is 90m too long?
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I pced 90 min. I let cool in My back bedroom til they where cold to the touch. I inoculated 12 jars and 2 petris. I have one jar uninoculated as a control (ran out of spore syringe). As I put the jars in a warm spot I dropped 3 jars after inoculation and they landed upside down on the foil cap. Hopefully these jars will colonize. Never grew pan cyan before. All I need is one jar to fruit so I can get a clone.
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4 hours ago you ask is 90m ok 4 hours later you did 90m cycle. I really hope they were cooled down enough.
Keep us posted
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They cooled enough. My back room is like 50. I let the pressure release on my pc without rushing and put everything in my SAB. After an hr it was cool to the touch. I waited an hr after they cooled. When I asked about the 90 minutes I was an hr into the pc run at full pressure.
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It appears I have growth in at least 2 jars. I havent physical touched my jars since I moved them after I inoculated them so I can only see the front side of a few jars. I guess now is the time to ask how much casing material will I need to pasteurized when the time is close? Would a quart of casing 50/50 verm/peat moss + 2 tablespoons hydrated lime be enough for 11 wide mouth 1/2 pints and one regular mouth 1/2 pint?
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How fast does pan cyan grow? Is it faster than p.cubes to colonize?
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They both take roughly the same amount of time to colonize.
Imo, pan mycelium is a little less hardier than cube mycelium, so be advised come time to shake.
One last thing, simply do a "User List" search of WaylitJim.
You'll find his pan cyan grows in his "Main Thread" section.
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24173606 - 03/18/17 11:18 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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K. Thanks hamloaf I'll try and remember that. I'm not shaking anything btw it's a pf tek pan cyan grow following WayLitJim pf tek. Then I'll clone the fruits and go to grain.
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All 12 jars have growth. Yeah! One of my plates germinated too. Yeah! But it has trich! Boo! So I set up my SAB and transfered the myc out of it to a new plate. I haven't had to transfer from contaminants yet so fingers crossed. Guess I'll see if my sterile procedure is up to par.
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Cool man. Good news!
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24175016 - 03/19/17 02:06 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks! I'm stoked. First time growing pans! And haven't grown in years. It's coming back all retarted. Thankfully I have this forum to help me out.
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Still no trich after my transfer. Awesomeness. Jars moving along nicely.
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Most jars are 1/3colonized. One is at 10% because i didnt inoculate half the cake and one like 60%. The transfer after the trich plate been transfered again. I now have 4 plates with wedges on them. Trichs long gone. I do have one question. Since not all the cakes are colonizing at the same speed can I wait till full colonization of the jars to dunk and then case? Im under the impression that i can wait til they are fully colonized together to case and until they are cased they wont fruit. I plan on using jiffy seed starter as a casing layer.
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All but one jars is fully colonized. I'm waiting until it colonized fully and consolidates a week before trying to fruit. I have 4 petris that will be transfered to there own grain jars in a few days.
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Good work get some pics up share the love we need pictures to eat we're hungry
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Can someone tell me the yield of pan cyans on pf style cakes? In a monotub?And also I have a very good looking petri of pan cyan I'm going to tiger drop onto grains in a few days. Is it true shaking is bad? I was hoping to g2g for a monotub of these.
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No one can tell you that it could be between 0g to infinity. No idea how much will grow or how many cakes etc
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I get that. I'm hoping for an oz at least from 10 pf style jars.
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Dry oz im guessing should be possible if all goes well
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I know cubes would give me 2.5 at least. Never grew pan cyans before tho. But like i said I'm going to monotubs soon. I have a few plates going to grain in a few days. It's just anxiety is why I'm curious. I'll probably get anxious for every new shroom I grow.
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I've never grown pans, but from my research, they do a lot better with a thin substrate for tubs. I have them on agar, but the myc is so thin that I'm not supremely confident it's pan cyan myc.
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I'm going to knock up some grain jars with agar tomorrow night or so.
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Should I dunk these cakes? I'm not sure. I re-read WayLitJim tek and he doesn't mention it he just says take the dry verm off and case. Will dunking them hurt? I don't want to do something I shouldnt.
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bastard4life said: Can someone tell me the yield of pan cyans on pf style cakes? In a monotub?And also I have a very good looking petri of pan cyan I'm going to tiger drop onto grains in a few days. Is it true shaking is bad? I was hoping to g2g for a monotub of these.
Pan mycelium is wispier, and a little bit more delicate, than cube myce.
With pans I prefer to make an LC, and inoculate grain that way with liberal amounts of LC, so the grains won't have to be shook.
It's not a deal breaker, or anything to shake pan mycelium, but pan myce does have a slightly higher chance of not recovering after the shake than cubes is all.
PS- dunk and roll the cakes.
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24233628 - 04/10/17 10:37 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey hamloaf I was going to put them back in the glass jars inside the sgfc with pasteurized jiffy mix on top like WayLitJim cases his pf style cakes. Are you suggesting if I roll I won't need to use the pasteurized jiffy mix? Or I should roll and add the casing? And as far as lc goes how much per quart jar? Im thinking of cloning to agar and make some lc after your advice.
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Oooh, Idk about that. I have never fruited cakes like that. It's hard to discern what I'd do being that pans like it a little less humid, and are less CO2 tolerant than cubes.
If it were me, and I was in doubt, I'd dunk a few cakes, and not dunk a few cakes, placing them back in the jars, using the casing as per the tek being followed to see which worked best. I'd forget the verm too.
A couple cc's of LC split between 5 inoculation points. 1 down each side of the jar, and one right down the center.
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24233680 - 04/10/17 11:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any opinions on this? Pan Cyan T2 (initial plate was 100% colonized and kept in a fridge for quite some time).
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24233690 - 04/10/17 11:13 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm going to dunk all of them. I have mycelium on agar that's way healthy. WayLitJim tek in the thread says he compensates the fae issue buy putting the jars up to there rim in perlite. I'll assume the less perlite means less humidity? I'm following his thread but no dunk on it but my house is super dry so I figure why not dunk a couple hours.
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Been in sgfc 2 days now. I must and fan twice a day. It seems dry. The perlite isn't that damp. I directly mist the casings slightly. I'm trying to keep fae up and humidity down. I figure the casing will create the proper moisture through fruiting.
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 woke up to this today. Pan cyan pf style. Thanks for the help everyone. I'll add some more throughout the rest of the grow.
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Congrats man!
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Nice man. Make us some prints.
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24256627 - 04/19/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's the plan.
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I mist and fan when I wake up and fall asleep. I also fan about 4 times a day without misting. I read that pan cyan likes less humidity and more fae. Im so stoked i was able to grow these. Ill be taking prints when there ready to print. Ill also clone the largest one and do a bulk grow with it.
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Are those stems clear? Whoa... They get lots of water I bet. I have some clear ones, and when you squeeze them They go Squeeee like a squeaky toy hahahha
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bastard4life
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They feel solid. Some are thicker then a golf t. I'm happy with this grow.
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Do I print pan cyans the same as ps. Cubes. I'm wating for the caps to open fully before I harvest and get some prints.
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 here's the sgfc today. And a forest closeup.
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Very nice!!
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: SHROOMYG]
#24264260 - 04/22/17 02:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I can harvest tonight but I'm waiting for hamloaf to hit me up. He's giving me tips on printing tonight. So I wait happily with my forest watching them get bigger and bigger.
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bastard4life said:
 here's the sgfc today. And a forest closeup.
Those look good. Let the cap open up a little bit more, then print them. By the looks of it that will occur with in the next few hours on some of those.
Get geared up, and ready today to take the prints. Harvest, and take prints tomorrow. You are correct. They can be printed just like cubes.
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Re: WayLitJim tek [Re: hamloaf]
#24264405 - 04/22/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks hamloaf!! I'm on it.
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I harvested 80+ grams wet and took the best 20 and am trying to print.
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nice job dude!
im still trying to get mine to germinate without being bacterial cesspools.
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