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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24167121 - 03/16/17 01:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah I have no problem with someone's beliefs, opinions, or concepts, so long as theyre ground in some factual basis.
But when you operate from a foundation of outright falsehoods, your beliefs and concepts tend to be utter shit.
Like Political Correctness?
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: qman] 1
#24167595 - 03/16/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depends on what you mean by political correctness, thats a complaint as vague as "liberalism."
And are you saying PC is utter bullshit? That its an outright falsehood? What do you mean
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Webster10] 2
#24167603 - 03/16/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Webster10 said: Yeah, kind of like the belief that trump is a Russian puppet like you still believe 
I've never once made that claim. But I can see how its easier for you to write off the things I say when they arent actually things I've said.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: koods] 1
#24167609 - 03/16/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: I'm curious as to what Webster thinks about trumps Baku hotel being a money laundering operation for the Iranian republican guard,
Thats just speculation.
Lets get back to the concrete facts, like Hillary Clinton running a pedophile ring out of a pizza place.
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qman said: "who's to say which viewpoint is 'correct'?"
Isn't that what you, I and others do in this forum? We're always placing judgment on beliefs, concepts and behavior.
I tend to debate facts rather than opinions.
...in your opinion.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: viktor] 1
#24167621 - 03/16/17 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say its pretty indisputable that more often than not, fal is disputing someone's misinformation, not their beliefs or opinions.
For emphasis: "more often than not"
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: viktor]
#24169378 - 03/17/17 09:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I tend to debate facts rather than opinions.
...in your opinion.
I would say its pretty indisputable that more often than not, fal is disputing someone's misinformation, not their beliefs or opinions.
For emphasis: "more often than not"
First of all, The Ecstatic is correct in that more often than not I debate misinformation, hence my statement that I "tend to" debate facts rather than opinion.
But I'm curious to know what opinions you think I debated. In the thread about 'gender identity' that I had a lengthy argument with you, I was very careful to state that I wasn't offering my own opinion on that topic, but rather the consensus of the American Psychological Association.
Can you provide examples of me debating opinion?
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: The Ecstatic]
#24169397 - 03/17/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Depends on what you mean by political correctness, thats a complaint as vague as "liberalism."
And are you saying PC is utter bullshit? That its an outright falsehood? What do you mean
The way PC is practiced today is "utter bullshit", it's filled with double standards and hypocrisy.
When the overall goal is to constantly demonized one particular demographic (straight white males), it has lost any value it may have held at one point.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: qman] 1
#24169424 - 03/17/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Point being theres a spectrum of what people consider PC.
Demonizing all straight white males on one end, and demonizing everyone else on the other.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I tend to debate facts rather than opinions.
...in your opinion.
I would say its pretty indisputable that more often than not, fal is disputing someone's misinformation, not their beliefs or opinions.
For emphasis: "more often than not"
First of all, The Ecstatic is correct in that more often than not I debate misinformation, hence my statement that I "tend to" debate facts rather than opinion.
But I'm curious to know what opinions you think I debated. In the thread about 'gender identity' that I had a lengthy argument with you, I was very careful to state that I wasn't offering my own opinion on that topic, but rather the consensus of the American Psychological Association.
Can you provide examples of me debating opinion? 
I must have missed that thread. What is your stance on this gender identity crap? I call it crap because the whole trans movement is something out of a science fiction novel. Your either a man or a woman. No one can change their gender, all they can do is do some weird cosmetic shit that again, is something out of a science fiction novel.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Arose Chaos]
#24169664 - 03/17/17 11:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are the usual intelligence members off for their boozing holiday? Seems slow here today
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Arose Chaos]
#24170048 - 03/17/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Arose Chaos said: I must have missed that thread. What is your stance on this gender identity crap? I call it crap because the whole trans movement is something out of a science fiction novel. Your either a man or a woman. No one can change their gender, all they can do is do some weird cosmetic shit that again, is something out of a science fiction novel.
Depends on what you're asking specifically. Do I think some people identify as members of the opposite sex? Yes.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to use a private stall in gender neutral bathroom? Yes, we already have that here in California.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to shower with women where there are no privacy barriers? No.
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Arose Chaos said: I must have missed that thread. What is your stance on this gender identity crap? I call it crap because the whole trans movement is something out of a science fiction novel. Your either a man or a woman. No one can change their gender, all they can do is do some weird cosmetic shit that again, is something out of a science fiction novel.
Depends on what you're asking specifically. Do I think some people identify as members of the opposite sex? Yes.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to use a private stall in gender neutral bathroom? Yes, we already have that here in California.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to shower with women where there are no privacy barriers? No.
"people with dicks"
Is that the new PC term today?
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Arose Chaos said: I must have missed that thread. What is your stance on this gender identity crap? I call it crap because the whole trans movement is something out of a science fiction novel. Your either a man or a woman. No one can change their gender, all they can do is do some weird cosmetic shit that again, is something out of a science fiction novel.
Depends on what you're asking specifically. Do I think some people identify as members of the opposite sex? Yes.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to use a private stall in gender neutral bathroom? Yes, we already have that here in California.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to shower with women where there are no privacy barriers? No.
Well...shit. I am inclined to agree with you. However you omitted the bathroom issue. Showers yes, but what about a trans male using a female bathroom? Or visa versa
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Arose Chaos] 2
#24171145 - 03/17/17 10:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why even have sex-specific bathrooms at all?
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Enlil]
#24171223 - 03/17/17 10:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Religious puritanism - the same reason you still mutilate each other's cocks.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: viktor]
#24171479 - 03/18/17 02:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like a party.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: koods]
#24171537 - 03/18/17 04:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have never heard of this guy but I will listen to music on youtube and that is the extent of it. I have really one political opinion and it doesn't matter if I call anyone anything it isn't going to affect my life nor will arguing change their opinion unless you find someone open minded enough. Do you think I'll be at a lecture on a college campus being lectured by a gay britsh jew dude or would care if I were attending. Absolutely not there is really little that I disagree with strongly enough to even respond. If I am ever watching a political youtube video I will hit x. The thing about opinions is that we all have them and there will be a range of them. I am fully aware that people will say things even I find irrational and wrong, will I get riled up every-time no if everyone held my opinions that would be alarming.
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: qman]
#24171581 - 03/18/17 05:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"people with dicks"
Is that the new PC term today? 
that's not a "term".
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Re: Milo Yainnopolis - The dangerous faggot [Re: Arose Chaos]
#24172321 - 03/18/17 01:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to use a private stall in gender neutral bathroom? Yes, we already have that here in California.
Do I think people with dicks should be allowed to shower with women where there are no privacy barriers? No.
Well...shit. I am inclined to agree with you. However you omitted the bathroom issue. Showers yes, but what about a trans male using a female bathroom? Or visa versa
Why even have sex-specific bathrooms at all?
Glad we're not as far apart as you thought.
I thought my first bullet point was about bathrooms. If that didn't address your question, I agree with Enlil's follow up statement. If that still doesn't address your question, let me know.
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